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Bavarian 1855 border guards bayonet, many texts identify this as an unknown item, but accepted identification now is the border guards.
Very pronounced beaked pommel
Alex Coppel makers mark |
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1860 quillback blade |
WERNDL Scabbard modified |
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Unknown conversion to the mouth piece of a Bavarian Werder bayonet scabbard. |
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1860 with broken blade, most of these were later converted to the 71/98 by fitting a S98 style hilt to the pipeback blade. Grooved "front" to grip
Plain back to the hilt.
Cross guard serial E ?? 198
Blade ahs been bent and broken before the pipe back |
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S71 bayonet in brass mounted leather scabbard
Matching unit marks on blade and scabbard, blade has 1872 spine acceptance stamp |
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Commercial S71, without fullers and with steel ersatz style scabbard
Knights Head makers mark |
1871 | |||||
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S71 |
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S71 in the less common steel ersatz scabbard. Maker is Gerbr Simson in Suhl, whilst it is unit marked to 33.R.3.16 (scored out), acceptance was in 73. The gilt on the hilts is all that remains of the original finish, the brass grips were originally gilt finished, most blades found have had all of the gilt cleaned off and the brass base polished |
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S71 sawback
markings show it was assigned to a reserve ersatz unit
original acceptance mark is 1874 so is fairly early in the production period of the bayonet |
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71/98 a rehilted 1861 to fit the 1898 rifle
1898 style hilt fitted to the 1861 blade
Luneschloss makers mark on ricasso
Original 1861 date mark |
1888 | |||||
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Siamese 1888 used by German units in WWI
Condition of blade, provenance of the blade and this W spine mark are what makes the assumption that this is a German used one possible. Siamese blades do not have the W spine marking New information has shown that the W marking on the spine is found on Siamese found bayonets, see Thailand
Hilt and double edged blade
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S98 with original leather scabbard |
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S98 with chromed scabbard, pommel and blade |
1898 shortened | |||||
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S98 shortened to 12" with shortened late pattern steel scabbard, these are referenced in Carters book on the G98 but are usually marked as Naval issue this one is not
Shortening of blade and scabbard is done to much higher standard than on the Turkish 10" shortened blades |
1898 abs | |||||
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Close up of M1898 with sawback removed and chroming, showing sawback removal. Sawbacks were removed form German blades after 1917 |
1898 ersatz | |||||
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S98 in the less common of the ersatz metal scabbards used for this to replace the original leather ones |
98/02 | |||||
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98/02 Erfurt made, canceled scabbard marks show originally issued to pioneer unit then to reserve Pioneer unit |
98/05 see the page dedicated to this model |
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Gottscho bayonet, one of the Ersatz WWI bayonets made in limited numbers and not a very successful design
One piece grips
Inspection mark
Often described as a light bulb mark (with admitted unknown reasons) the Gottscho mark is now seen more reasonably as a ladle used in the steel making process's
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1888/98 Ersatz Bayonets See the dedicated page for ersatz bayonets |
1871/84 | |||||
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Dress version of 71/84 bayonet
symmetrical cross guard has no residual muzzle ring
the pommel has no provision for mounting to a rifle
Fuller is signed but I cannot make out the signature
WKC makers mark
wear on locket of scabbard shows that the bayonet has been well worn |
71/84 Saxon DOA | |||||
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Three uncommon blades in one: a Saxon marked 71/84, original steel scabbard DOA - German East Africa unit marks Originally a Saxon issued piece, this bayonet was withdrawn and re issued for the use of the Askari troops in west Africa in WWI. The officers and NCO's used the KS98 - see my example - while the native troops were issued with the 71/84 and these bayonets. Although more of these would have been issued, they are the harder of the issue blades to find, probably as the troops used them as tools after the war, not souvenirs. I had feedback on the above statement regarding the Askari troops and their use of 71/84's as follows ". ......I think the authority on this must be Dieter Storz from the Bavarian Army Museum, the author of 'German Military Rifles. He states that the M.71/84 rifles were never issued in the colonies, as it was felt that the weapon was too complicated for use by native troops and the M.71 was the preferred weapon. The S.71/84 bayonet was another matter as it was often worn as a sidearm by German N.C.O. s and in any case would fit the M.71 rifle normally carried by the Askaris, alongside with captured British weapons!...."courtesy of HaltonBrat |
84/98 For more of the 84/98 and its variation see the dedicated page | |||||
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Variation on blade stamping with underlined CRS marking. Scabbard marked omc 40 |
84/98 Sneak | |||||
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Sneak bayonet made to circumvent the Versailles treaty restrictions on weapons manufacture. Only marking is small O under the ricasso. the serial is from post war use. |
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S84/98 aA mS converted from an 1888 71/84 bayonet by the addition of a new hilt. This is probably the rarest blade in my collection |
84/98 S/249 | |||||
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84-98 S/249 |
84/98 Coppel | |||||
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84-98 Coppel 1939 |
84/98 S/155 | |||||
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84-987 S/155 Jugoslav rework |
84/98 S/172 | |||||
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84-98 S/172 |
84/98 S/238 | |||||
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84-98 S238 Kreigsmarine marked |
84/98 S/185 | |||||
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84-98 S/185 scabbard |
84/98 Herder | |
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84/98 mS early version without flash guard, Herder made example has no acceptance marks on spine or pommel, Erfurt made ones have a W over 15 spine mark and pommel acceptance marks. Very few of these were made. |
84/98 S/242 | |||||
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S242G 84/98 |
84/98 Stepman & Co | |||||
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84/98 nA made by Stepman & Co. bayonet has no military acceptance stamps, no spine date or pommel stamps. Scabbard is a Spanish not German one so probably not original |
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One of a batch of bym marked bayonets dumped into a lake at the end of WWII from the local factory. Conditions in the lake served to preserve the bayonets and they were recovered with little corrosion. This one is in the enough condition before final shaping and drilling of press stud hole to final dimensions. Of note is that although not finished the blade is already marked with a makers mark "bym" and the date (only the 5 is used), there is no evidence of the serial number, indicating that this at least was not stamped until near completion of the bayonet. Interesting what you an learn from unfinished goods. |
1895 | |||||
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An Austrian 1895 accepted in German service with the WaA on the pommel, the style of stamp would indicate that this is pre WWII |
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Fighting knife converted from Austrian 1895 bayonet, including cut down scabbard |
KS98 | |||||
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KS98 with wood grips and scabbard markings of African issued example. The wooden gripped examples are not common, but considerably more so than the very rare rubber gripped ones. |
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kS98 model
Script F mark on cross guard is unit designation for Fernsprech (Telegraph) units (thanks Allan Herbison for the correction) |
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KS 98 dress with frog and knot (trodel)
Trodel is green over silver bullion not sure of unit this designates
Makers mark nearly obliterated
Frog has central rivet in rear face and trodel has blue grey leather straps |
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Dress bayonet
Felt insert in the pommel slot
WKC makers mark
Grip pattern has imbedded itself in the original patent leather frog |
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Single Etched dress knife - PIONEER pattern, similar to the 84/98 in style
Etching on blade is commemoration of the owners time in service, the wear on the blade and scabbard shows this blade was carried and not just a draw item
Clearly visible frog wear on scabbard
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Fireman Bayonet, similar to the KS dress bayonets but with the distinctive s shaped crossguard. This is the less common pioneer bladed version. These do not have any method of mounting on a rifle. |
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Probably a converted 98/05 with shortened parallel ground blade and new pommel and grips. The pommel slot is only 20mm not the normal 40mm but slot is typical Mauser T/O type. Metal has all been plated, and the only marking is a C with a small x on the tail - I've seen this mark before but not sure where. I have put this in Germany at the moment but is probably Yugoslavian any help with ID would be appreciated. |
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Dress KS98, these came in various styles with and without etchings, they are a collecting field all of their own but not one that I am overly interested in |
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Unmarked 84/98 with all parts chromed. the blade shows atypical square fullers, and a stepped tang, both features only found on blades made my Move and another unknown maker. These are not commonly found blades. Any information on this would be appreciated |
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SS Fantasy Blade based on Standard Mauser Blade |
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S14 made by BK, this variation has the fullers wrongly positioned on the blade, so that the fuller almost touches the crossguard, this has caused problems with stamping on the makers marks so that it is only partially visible. |
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FP made S14 |
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S14 made by Bayard, these always come in the Ersatz style scabbard as the blade thickness is such as to prevent the use of the S14 pattern scabbard
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S14 Bavarian issued
Original scabbard painted with light grey paint (fieldgrau)
Screwed grips
Odeon made blade, not marked with the more normal Samson Werk. The small "90" is Bavarian serial number |
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BK made sawback S14 bayonet
Re mains of original green scabbard paint still visible where it was protected by the frog |
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1914 pattern bayonets, upper version has heavily ground blade removing fullers and markings, normal steel scabbard has been adjusted to still retain blade.
Comparison of blade thickness of altered and unaltered 1914. There is no apparent reason for this conversion, one suggestion is that it was thinned to be used a boning knife as it gives it the characteristics of that type of butchers blade Mick O'Shea in Australia reports owning a similarly converted blade, so it is not a one off conversion. |
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S1914 marked as made by SD. Anthony Carter only records a single example of this makers mark on the S1914, it is also seen with the Gottscho ladle marking. |
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Demag Crank Handle Ersatz (genuine)
Makers mark
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Re issued French 1866 Chassepot
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A 1918 made 84/98 nA re issued in 1920 to the Weimar republic (the 1920 stamp was on all officially issued pieces. Original Unit marks are scored out on scabbard |
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Another Weimar re issue this time a 98/05 the cut out in the pommel was to turn the blade into a side arm as it was meant to disable the locking stud. this one has had all of the stud assembly welded/brazed and chromed, and the grips replaced with horn grips. In addition there has been a "latch" fitted to the spine which would prevent it fitting into a standard scabbard. Currently I am unsure of status of this piece. IS it a dress piece? if so why has V notch been left in and not filled. |
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Polish M28 Mobilization bayonet used by German Kreigsmarine unit
RADOM manufactured with low serial number of "20"
Only German marking on Blade is the WaA on the blade spine
Significance of grip marks and whether German or Polish is unknown
1940 date on Kregsmarine frog
Painted mark on frog is similar to unit marks found on the front of German vehicles of the time (ID please?) |
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Converted Dutch 1895, blade has been shortened and the scabbard cut to fit. |
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Fighting knife made from a cut down czechVZ24, came in early pre 1940 production 84/98 scabbard with 1940 marked frog
comparison of fighter with full length un modified bayonet
Interestingly the scabbard is only marked with a serial number on the back face for the throat
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Childs Bayonet |
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Childs bayonet from 30's? |
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M7 styled commercial |
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Commercial Short there are a large number of variations on this style of blade, with and without wire cutters and sawback. They were made to fit onto nearly all rifles available in the 70's and 80's including the AK47 |
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Commercial bayonet, long version with saw back and wire cutter attachments |
KCB Eickhorn | |||||
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Eickhorn made KCB for the M16, blade has just the Eickhorn Squirrel so is an original early version |
KCB Knife | |||||
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KCB style dagger without rifle fittings for use as a fighting knife |
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Early pattern G3 bayonet with grooved wooden grips and Danish M8 style scabbard with the wood grain finish. Commonly known as the Rheinmettal G3 these were made by Eickhorn and a similar bayonet with a different pommel was made for the M16 rifle thanks to Bill porter for the extra info |
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Totally unmarked I believe this is either a German G3 bayonet or one of theirs for export. The bayonet is completely unmarked |
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G36 a AKM bayonet modified for use with the G36 assault rifle
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GMS M16 bayonet. The German company GMS bought out the bankrupt Eickhorn and produced their own bayonets with the Eickhorn Squirrel. This although superficially the same as the KCB series has a different scabbard body, and a comp[letly different wire cutter design as Eickhorn had the patent on this still. |