CHINA
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Bayonet for unknown rifle, uses original 1874 French Gras blade, scabbard and cross guard with new pommel and grips
Crossguard and just visible is the original Gras ricasso mark
Original Arsenal marks re just visible on spine of blade
UK 1856 style pommel with wooden grips cut to resemble the French 1866 Chassepot bayonet
Pommel looks very similar to the 1856 Yataghan style in shape and style
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Chinese made Arisaka with original frog
Frog s modelled on the original Japanese pattern
Original Frog reverse side
Hilt uses Japanese style oval screws
Crude Braze on attaching the pommel to the tang
Is this a marking or just corrosion marks (Juken30 ) has identified this mark as the Arsenal marking for the 90th Arsenal under Communist control
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Bayonet made for a Mauser type bayonet
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Hilt, note that the fixings are oval as in the Japanese Arisaka blades
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Also rivets are not central on tang
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Not sure if this is supposed to be a copy of the Gras or of the Peabody
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T backed blade is not as well formed as European blades with very heavy T and less defined T shape
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Hilt is straight backed not humped as for the Gras
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Frog strap on scabbard is much narrower than the European made ones and scabbard is of thinner material
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Pommel is ground flat to allow it to mount, maybe like the Germans the original Gras Hump has been removed to fit to a later type rifle
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1871(?) date and unknown blade script
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Belgian made Ersatz bayonet, uses old Belgian socket blade fixed to a sheet steel hilt.
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Pressed steel hilt, similar to those used on some German WWI ersatz blades
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Belgian made "ersatz" using a Belgian socket blade to make a new bayonet for a Mauser type rifle
rather crude wooden grips with Germanic style hilt anad cross guard
Interesting very well made and substantial scabbard
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French 1866 copy, has stepped hilt similar to the German WWI conversions to fit the 1871 |
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Blade fullers extend under the cross guard |
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Hilt spring is very thin |
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Blade is narrower than the Chassepot and muzzle ring adjuster uses nut and bolt |
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Hilt grooves are very crudely made |

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Comparison of French and Chinese models
Side view of French and Chinese versions
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German style frog stud
Shaved Hilt of 2nd "1866" obtained from China
Shaved hilt
Interesting spine mark, Christopher Colombus naming, Sellers information indicated that this blade was that of a major in the allied forces during the boxer rebellion in 1900-1901
Throat of scabbard
Crossguard is very slack on tang with excessive hilt clearance
Crude press stud, looks hand ground
Top of muzzle ring is held by simple nut and bolt
Frog stud is a lot thinner than the similar frog stud fitted to German 1866 conversions
Impressive Certificate of authenticity supplied with blade
Text indicates that the blade was to the best of the knowledge a French 1866 chassepot used during war of 1900-1901
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Mukden Arisaka made after the Japanese had left
Crudely made blade has Mukden arsenal stamp on the ricasso. Blade shows heavy signs of grinding under a dark blued finish (Juken30) has identified the additional ricasso mark as the 90th Arsenal under National Chinese control (1945 to 1948) Many thanks
Late war pattern crossguard and pommel combined with grips held together by a rivets
rivets hold the grips together
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Chinese Mauser made with Japanese Arisaka blade
Tokyo arsenal Arisaka blade
Grips are made with screw headed
Rivets
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1920 model based on UK 1907 / Japanese Arisaka style blade. |
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6 Belgian produced bayonets, these use Geramn WWI ersatz bayonets and parts from other swords and bayonets as their basis. It is thought that they were produced in small "workshops" to bring work in the aftermath of WWI. I suppose the identification should be 1920, as are the other Chinese blades of this period but these are not shown in the texts, and as they are conversions may end up being like the Turkish conversions in their numbers.
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Not sure if this is a conversion of another blade or not, it has some similarity to the 1907 style blade but.......
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Converted German ersatz
Hilt has been machined to allow inset wooden grips, original muzzle ring has been removed
original German inspection mark on the spine
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Converted 98/05 ersatz style bayonet in original 98/05 leather scabbard, I would think that the issue would have been in a steel scabbard not leather unless for a specific purpose i.e. NCO?
wooden grips inset into original steel hilt
the grooves in the original hilt are still visible
Grips are very thin
German inspection mark on spine still visible
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Is this a conversion of another German blade, possibly a re shaped 98/05 style ersatz
all steel hilt has German ersatz style
very thin grips
blunt blade, is this due to the re shaping of the original butcher blade shape?
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is this another ersatz conversion, the blade heavily ground on the ricasso, hilt style is similar to the 98/05
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Another German Ersatz conversion
Removed muzzle ring and wooden grip inserts
cross guard is crudely ground off
again very shallow grips inserts
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Fixed folding bayonet
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EGYPT
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1867/70 Remington
Ricasso stamp
Comparison of Remington Hilt with French Chassepot hilt
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1867/70 Remington. with Arabic script
on both sides of bayonet
and on the pommel
Remington slot without chamfer found on the French 1866 Chassepot. Note B in slot, significance of this is not yet known
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Snider bayonet, found with two different muzzle rings and with both forward and reward facing Quillions, blade is a Yataghan style. Scabbard is brass mounted leather. These bayonets are often quoted as Confederate Slab side bayonet but are from a period after the end of the American Civil war.
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This is the large muzzle ring variation with a diameter of 22.5mm. There are no marks on this bayonet. Grips are two brass grips riveted to a steel cross guard. Examples can be found with PDL made blades, this one has only a C mark on the ricasso
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Snider bayonet, found with two different muzzle rings and with both forward and reward facing Quillions, blade is a Yataghan style. This is the smaller muzzle ring variation with a diameter of 19.8mm. There are no marks on this bayonet. Grips are two brass grips riveted to a steel cross guard. Examples can be found with PDL made blades
These bayonets are often quoted as Confederate Slab side bayonet but are from a period after the end of the American Civil war.
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1914, as 1867 with a new made crossguard for the 303 rifle, many of thes are marked for police use but this one only has the pommel marks in Arabic
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UK 1876 modified to fit a Lee Enfield 303
Scabbard is brown leather with brass mounts
Egyptian markings on the blade
Egyptian markings on the blade two faces are marked
Bushed socket to fit 303
UK markings on the top of the blade
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Remington Yataghan modified to fit 303 rifle
Conversion for Enfield rifle involved sectioning the original cross guard and fitting a new section with the new muzzle ring
German manufacturer mark
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Arabic serial on pommel of UK 1903, thought to be Egyptian
Arabic serial on pommel of UK 1907, thought to be Egyptian
Ricasso marks on 1907 show it to be new made in 1928 by Sanderson and blued to old original style not UK style of period
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