I have given Turkey a page to itself due to the huge number of available Turkish conversions
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TURKEY
The ASFA commonly found on the hilt of Turkish bayonets is the stamp indicting its manufacture/conversion by the army arsenal that came into existence in 1929, converted blades without the ASFA stamp were converted before or after this time. The Turks converted large numbers of bayonets to fit their own weapons, you can find most variations of WWI German made bayonets, Rumanian, Yugoslavian, Czechoslovak and British (also Australian). They also converted their own 1890 and 1903 pattern bayonets. Many were converted to the "1935" pattern to fit a Spanish version of the standard Mauser rifle, these typically have a 10" (250mm) blade and cross guard modifications to mount onto this rifle. Some of these blades were also converted to mount onto the US M1 rifle, these typically have a straight sided crossguard. Collecting Turkish bayonets is a field on its own with a huge number of variations, with their being variations within the variations. Many UK 1907 pattern bayonets are sold as Gallipoli captures, although there were substantial numbers of captured blades one needs to study the markings closely to rule out the large numbers that were bought in the late 20's (you will see 20's rework marks on the blades or manufacture dates after 1917), additionally Australian marks do not necessarily indicate use in Gallipoli, I have an Australian marked blade but it was made after the battle and would most likely be part of a shipment post WWI to the Turkish allies. In the19060's the Turkish introduced the FN FAL rifle into service and made their own distinctive bayonet. Often sold as an Ersatz German Bayonet these twin ring bayonets come in four slightly different styles but all are made after the 60's and not WWI conversions. If you want to know more on these blades then get the ebook by OTTO at www.ebayonet.com it is the best reference there is and gets regular updates |
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Mauser Milanovich sabre has been shortened to fit with 1935 pattern blades
Original makers mark still on ricasso
Cross guard modified to mount on 1935 pattern Mauser rifle |
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Ersatz bayonet (EB22) shortened to 10" blade but otherwise unmodified Left hilt of above, blade is unfullered |
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Ersatz bayonet (EB25a) shortened to 10" blade but otherwise unmodified. It is not known if the removal of the muzzle ring was carried out by the Germans or the Turks
Left hilt of above, blade is unfullered |
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Ersatz bayonet (EB34) shortened to 10" blade but otherwise unmodified |
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"Bent" muzzle ring is original to this model of ersatz bayonet |
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Left hilt of above, blade is fullered
1935 Leaf Spring model |
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Close up of External spring 1935 |
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Rumanian Mannlicher conversion |
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German Ersatz cut down. Two part cross guard with fullers |
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German Ersatz cut down, |
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Cross guard moved back up hilt, rather than shortened hilt as is more normal. Close up of modified hilt. Scabbard has Leather throat piece welded to steel body |
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1915 Ersatz German cut down with fullers
Above blade showing Turkish character cross guard numbers |
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1915 Ersatz German cut down without fullers |
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M1935 new made bayonet |
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1935 with frog |
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M1935 conversion of 1903 model |
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Shortened German S98 quillback bayonet
Scabbard of above, a shortened and re throated Czech "Mauser" scabbard |
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Shortened and ground saw backed German 98/05
Close up of blade on ground sawback |
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Shortened and ground German 98/05
Close up of the badly ground end of the above blade |
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1935 using modified German 98/05 scabbard |
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Conversion by shortening and grinding of German Ersatz M1916 bayonet 13.5mm muzzle ring indicates this conversion is for the M1 Garand rifle (thanks Otto) |
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Converted Ersatz
Close up of above blade showing crude welding of new cross guard onto bayonet, and the small muzzle ring diameter |
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Shortened German all steel Ersatz |
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Czech 1895, crossguard has been modified |
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Comparison of hilt length with normal VZ24
Modified VZ23 cross guard for 1935 rifle |
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Czech VZ23 unmodified
Ricasso marks on VZ23 |
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German Ersatz Carter EB28
Hilt markings on above blade |
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German made 1916 Ersatz for Turkey Crossguard marks and indent |
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Converted UK 1907 pattern scabbard showing AT3 stamp of Yugoslav based scabbard |
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Shortened 1903, with intact quillion |
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1935 pattern conversions of German S98 and S98/05 pattern sawbacks. both have only partial removal of sawback, and show signs of the hilts being shortened, resulting in longer riccasso's |
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German 71/84 with added sawback - non original to blade as it is too short in total lengthened number of teeth to be an originally made sawback |
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1888 issue marks on 71/84 |
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German acceptance marks on pommel, and Turkish serial on crossguard |
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Saw back has been on the blade for some time as there is typical throat damage from sawback insertion into scabbard |
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Australian made 1907 |
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1907 Pattern marks on Ricasso |
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Australian makers mark and converted crossguard |
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UK 1907 converted to '35 standard bayonet |
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1927 marks on blade show this is post war purchase and not WWI captured blade, bayonet is originally made 1915 |
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Shortened UK 1907, this bayonet shows a 1945 manufacture date so shows that the 1935 model; continued to be produced after WWII |
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Raised muzzle ring and shaved pommel |
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Scabbard uses the throat from a UK scabbard brazed into the body of a shortened German 98/05 scabbard |
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Scabbard is not the late crimped scabbard |
WSC S294 marks of WWII production Wilkinson manufactured bayonet, date shows this to be a 1945 produced models |
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Yugoslav VZ long bayonet converted to '35 standard |
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BT3 arsenal marks on converted VZ bayonet |
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98/05 nA conversion, I am assuming that the new ring fits Czech 1922 rifle |
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Mauser blade marks on 1918 made 98/05 with added muzzle ring |
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98/05nA mS sawbacked butcher blade conversion to '35 standard, probably for the Czech rifle |
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Mauser blade marks on 1917 made 98/05 sawback with added muzzle ring |
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Squared fuller 1935 from unknown blade |
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Converted from German M16 Ersatz by shortening and grinding original shape would be as a German 98/05 |
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M1935 new made bayonet |
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1935 model with a large ASFA stamp on the hilt, much larger than the normal ASFA on the pommel and not commonly seen |
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Twin ringed for FAL with fullers also available with an un fullered blade |
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Notched muzzle ring on twin ring bayonet. Have fullered and un fullered versions with this ring |
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Garand model made by adding an additional plate onto the existing crossguard of a 1935 pattern bayonet, this new plate has a smaller off centre hole designed to mate with the Garand flash hider added 12/10/2002 |
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The added plate is pined into position on the existing cross guard added 12/10/2002 |
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Straight muzzle ring on twin ring bayonet. Have fullered and un fullered versions with this ring |
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Cut down 98/05 with added muzzle ring and removed sawback added 9/8/02 |
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Added muzzle ring and showing signs of removed sawback |
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Shortened German 98/05 without the normal muzzle ring addition |
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1935 Mauser bayonet modified to fit n the US M1 Garand rifle
Spacer with small muzzle ring added to original cross guard.
Frog for US webbing
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1935 made by converting a WWI German brass hilted ersatz by adding a new cross guard approximately 20mm back from its original position. Very crude brazing holds on the steel cross guard to the brass hilt. For comparison the bottom picture shows an unmodified original German bayonet with original cast on muzzle ring |
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WWI produced German 84/98
Blade shows heavy grinding
Back edge of blade ahs date removed
Original makers mark |
A collection of shortened 1907's without any further modifications, indicating that they were used on SMLE rifles, the dates on the blades and the other indicators such as the late pattern scabbards with compressed throat fittings indicate that the SMLE was used post WWII by Turkey. Blades are both UK and Australian made and examples have been noted by all manufacturers including Remington and Mole
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Lithgow made 10 21 |
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Late production scabbard with compression fitted throat |
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Blades come with spear point and "bowie" point |
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"Bowie" pointed |
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This blade showed a double Lithgow stamping on the blade |
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This scabbard has been cut short and the bottom stitched without replacing the chape |
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Hand stitched scabbard |
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1919 Lithgow |
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Canadian acceptance mark on pommel |
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South African acceptance mark |
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Could this be a 1MD marking? |
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Australian 2MD marked with matching unit marked scabbard throat |
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Australian 3MD marked with matching unit marked scabbard throat |
Australian 4MD marked |
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Australian 5MD marked |
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Australian 6D^D marked - Tasmania |
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Steel scabbard |
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When shortening this one the leather ahs been reversed giving a seam up the rear of the scabbard |
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Steel scabbards use the 1907 throat welded to a new steel body |