84/98 aA made from a converted 71/84

Alex Coppel makers mark on the ricasso

Distinctive hump backed grips, also seen on the Rumanian 1893/1904

Unit marked cross guard

Scabbard and Frog are non original items

marks on frog. The supplier of this bayonet informed me that this bayonet was collected by in the Philippines around 1910 by his grandfather who was a US troop based there

84/98 aA made from a converted trials 71/84. The 1885 spine date and the twin makers mark show this is one of the original trials bayonets which would have had an external leaf spring not the later internal coil spring. The rarity of the original trials bayonets is explained by their conversion to these 84/98's

Single Etched dress knife -  PIONEER pattern, similar to the 84/98 in style

Etching on blade is commemoration of the owners time in service, the wear on the blade and scabbard shows this blade was carried and not just a drawer item

Clearly visible frog wear on scabbard

Puma maker is rarer maker for these types of blades

84/98 mS early version without flash guard, Herder made example has no acceptance marks on spine or pommel, Erfurt made ones have a W over 15 spine mark and pommel acceptance marks. Very few of these were made.

M84/98 sawback in leather scabbard

M84/98 2nd model NCO sawback

Unmarked 84/98 with all parts chromed. the blade shows atypical square fullers, and a stepped tang, both features only found on blades made my Move and another unknown maker. These are not commonly found blades. Any information on this would be appreciated

Weyersberg und Kirschbaum - WuK 1928 made 84/98

Unit marked to a Infantry unit

Pre Nazi inspection mark

Small screw bolts hold grips in place

Metal parts are un-blued and there is no flash guard

And no makers

or serial number marks on blades

and no visible WaA stamps or acceptance marks

Not even on the scabbard

Narrow bladed 84-98. These are pre war bayonets and relatively uncommon and little is known about them.

Lock stud has a construction number that will be found copied on grips etc. if you dismantle one, its similarity to the scabbard number is coincidental as it is a standard 84/98 by J Sch in 1939 with normal serial on it.

Blade tip profile is not the same as a normal 84/98 being narrower and more pointed, the slight blade width is evident on the picture of this blade laid on top of a normal 84/98

a)  1934 to 1940 the blades had a mark S/XXX, where the XXX was a 3 digit code for the maker.  34 date blades are marked K on the spine, 35 are marked G, the other dates are marked with the last two figures of the date.

b)  1937 to 1941, the blades were marked with the makers name

c)  1939 to 1945 the blades were marked with a 3 letter code for the maker (the exception is Elite Diamant that used a single letter i. Some makers had two different codes changing late in 1944.

There are several overlaps where one companies continued to use the older coding after others had started using the new ones.

There are also some bayonets with no obvious markings on them/

There are two different grip materials, wood and "plastic" with the latter being in black and red. The wood are typically the earlier made versions but each maker had different change over periods and may have gone back and forward between the two materials.

Late in 1944 some makers went over to riveted grips from the normal nuts and bolts

Very late you can find Phosphate finished blades, these are very hard to come by

S/173 1937 (alex coppel) near mint condition but missing scabbard

S184K (1934 manufacture by Joshua Corts) this blade has had a badge of some sort fixed onto one of the grips which was removed some time ago from the aging of the damage.

Close up of ricasso markings, also showing replaced grips and frog stud - any ideas as to what the button is?

S244 36 marked 84/98

Naval issued 84/98's

Andrej Blazicek [] has been kind enough to allow me to post his excellent work on KM marked bayonets to add further information than my small collection can give. Please contact him direct if you can provide information on markings adn serials on your KN marked blades

Kreigsmarine marked 84/98. Blade is marked 39 Clemen and Yung made whilst the scabbard is a37 WKC issue. The scabbard shows a O.7007.k serial which is taken to be Ostesea Kiel markings, the blade however is marked O.70P, is P another port (Peenumunde for example ) or something else?

O11126k made by Carl Eickhorn

Matching Horster 1939 marks and unit markings N10205k. Indicating use by Nord (North) Sea unit

Makers name marked blades

M84/98 3rd model ELITE DIAMANTE

M84/98 3rd model

Letter coded

As the war progressed the quality of the bayonets gradually deteriorated with heavy visible grinding marks etc..

ab (Mundlos) made bayonet in an aws (Horster) made scabbard. A limited number of bayonets in 1941 were fitted with Horster made scabbards at manufacture as they have matching numbers.

43asw marked blade in matching 44asw scabbard, this scabbard is one of the CAN made ones and the remains of the A can be seen under the serial on th eback of the scabbard, although it is hard to see in this picture, i shall have to try to get a clearer picture

Austrian made 84/98 III bym 43 marked scabbard (Ferlach, Austrian made)

WaA on the pommel are inverted -  typical of this maker

bym ricasso marks of Austrian made 84/98

matching serial on the scabbard

bym 44 with very interesting hilt damage, this is one of two I have seen but cannot figure out the reason for the strange damage. Also serial number stamping seems very strange. I have assumed that blade is 44 and uses a 43 stamp with the 3 removed

42 cvl marked WWII model with frog (WKC made)

Poor condition 1944 made 84/98 maker ddl

jwh 42 marked 84/98, shows French manufacture

Makers mark

Matching numbers

84/98 marked 44FFC (Herder and Son)

Makers mark on above blade

84/98 CLC44 very crudely made compared to normal/earlier manufacture, with very evident grinding marks on the blade and no blueing (R. Herder)

CLC44 with clearly visible grinding marks

By 1944 press studs were not being inspector stamped so this is probably a reused item

One of the rarer maker mark/date combinations, originally "agv" at the start of 1944 Berg & Co changed to "pyy" part way through the year. This is a mis matched example although the scabbard is another 44 pyy. The cross guard has had a later post WWII serial added but it is not known at the moment who did this.

Only a lightly stamped WaA is present on the pommel WaA 5xx.

Mouth of scabbard has no throat piece

Matching 1943 fze, still ahs all of the original grinding marks

cof made 84/98

Elite Diament made 84/98 with "i" ricasso mark

CAN made scabbard with CAN mark on reverse face, this and the serial would indicate that this s originally issued with a fnj made bayonet

84/98 non matching

1941  CRS made

with Tr serial

84/98 frog

1941 dated frog

P Weyersberg commercial made for the Reich Post, from the serial and the manufacture quality this is a late war production. the only markings are the makers mark and the RP serial, pommel etc is clear of all military acceptance marks. Early examples may be found with DRP on the ricasso rather than RP on the cross guard as in my example

Alcoso made commercial bayonet used by the police. Bayonet has no military acceptance marks but carries a 4 digit serial on the cross guard. Scabbard is not a standard 84/98 as it has rivets on both sides and not a single one on the side.

Commercial 84/98 as used by Police units and as a private purchase piece by officers, this is a late war model judging by quality

Made by Alcosso

Crude scabbard welding shows late war period manufacture

Complete lack of any inspection stamps

Unmarked 84/98 with very rough finish. The blade was apparently taken from the saddle bags of a BMW motorcycle sidecar combo left in a French barn since WWII

There are no markings on the blade or other exposed area of the blade

there is a total lack of acceptance marks etc.

84/98 PtIII late model with riveted grips

Rivets and 44asw makers mark clearly visible, 44 related to 1944 date (Horster till 1944))

Matching serials on blade and scabbard.. Blade is Vet bring back and frog was with blade when "rescued" late in WWII

Bayonet has red composite grips

SGX 44 marked riveted grips 84/98 (Horster 1944 to 1945)

opposite grip view of rivets

SGX 44 ricasso marks, the very rough finish of the blade is also apparent

Blade came in a Polish made scabbard

Another view of the poor surface finish of the blade

Fantasy Blades

In the mid 1970's a series of etched 84/98's were produced in the UK, featuring highly elaborate but totally erroneous etched designs for seemingly highly desired SS units. These were made from blades obtained in Czechoslovakia which were originally issue bayonets, chosen for their quality and matched numbers. In the mid 80's another batch was made using less high quality starting stock, and I've heard that new made ones are now coming out of eastern Europe. These are often sold at very high prices as vet bring backs etc. etched blades are more normally found on the KS98 dress bayonets and not normal wehrmacht issued blades.

SS Fantasy Blade based on Standard Mauser Blade

Fighting Knives

Made from issued blades, there are several different models

Cut down K98 used as fighting knife 

Cut down 84-98 with a less common Australian Frog

Herder made blade in 1939, matching blade and scabbard

Double edged blade grind with fuller removed

Cutting down pommel has removed locking mechanism for attachment to rifle

NORWAY

German  84/98 presented to friends of the  Norwegian Historical Society (1975 onwards) modified by addition of chain between hilt and blade

Chain end that engages hilt slot lock

Chain end machined to fit ricasso of 84/98

German 84/98 Mod III modified to fit US M1 Garand post WWII 

Addition to cross guard to engage lug in Garand

German  84/98 presented to friends of the  Norwegian Historical Society (1975 onwards) modified by addition of chain between hilt and blade

Chain end that engages hilt slot lock

Chain end machined to fit ricasso of 84/98

ISRAEL

44 cvl marked 84/98, The front of the frog has been replaced (period) with late war thin leather face that almost appears to be like paper (style of front is more that of one for an 1895 than an 84/98). Frog is marked as 1940 made 4th INTENDENTURA which translates as something like supply department (thank you Adam Lubas). Blade has typical 44 rough manufacture