GERMANY

WERNDL Scabbard modified
 
Total length =  mm   Blade length = mmBlade width =mm MRD = mm
Unknown conversion to the mouth piece of a Bavarian Werder bayonet scabbard.

1855 
 
Total length = mm                 Blade length = mm             Blade width =  mm             MRD =  mm                           

Bavarian 1855 border guards bayonet, many texts identify this as an unknown item, but accepted identification now is the border guards.

 

Very pronounced beaked pommel

 

Alex Coppel makers mark


1860
 
Total length = mm                 Blade length = mm             Blade width =  mm             MRD =  mm                           
1860 quillback blade


WERNDL Scabbard modified
Total length =  mm   Blade length = mmBlade width =mm MRD = mm
Unknown conversion to the mouth piece of a Bavarian Werder bayonet scabbard.

 

Werder
 
Total length = mm                 Blade length = mm             Blade width =  mm             MRD =  mm                           

Bavarian Werder bayonet with modified hilt, in brass mounted leather scabbard

 

 

Rear of pommel shows the grinding used to allow it to mount on a different rifle to original Werder rifle

 

 

Close up of grinding, a two step grind is also available

 

Makers mark of W&ST  in an arc of Solingen

 

 

Unit marks on cross guard

 

Leather of scabbard is marked as well, but not legible

 


1860
 
Total length = mm                 Blade length = mm             Blade width =  mm             MRD =  mm                           

1860 with broken blade, most of these were later converted to the 71/98 by fitting a S98 style hilt to the pipeback blade. Grooved "front" to grip

 

Plain back to the hilt.

 

 

Cross guard serial E ?? 198

 

Blade ahs been bent and broken before the pipe back


1871
 
Total length = mm                 Blade length = mm             Blade width =  mm             MRD =  mm                           

S71 bayonet in brass mounted leather scabbard

 

Matching unit marks on blade and scabbard, blade has 1872 spine acceptance stamp


Commercial 1871
 
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germany S71 commercial.jpg (60074 bytes)germany S71 commercial knights head.jpg (83122 bytes)

Commercial S71, without fullers and with steel ersatz style scabbard

 

Knights Head makers mark


1871
 
Total length = mm                 Blade length = mm             Blade width =  mm             MRD =  mm                           
Germany_1871.jpg (83946 bytes)

S71


1871 in ersatz scabbard
 
Total length = mm                 Blade length = mm             Blade width =  mm             MRD =  mm                           

S71 in the less common steel ersatz scabbard. Maker is Gerbr Simson in Suhl, whilst it is unit marked to 33.R.3.16 (scored out), acceptance was in 73. The gilt on the hilts is all that remains of the original finish, the brass grips were originally gilt finished, most blades found have had all of the gilt cleaned off and the brass base polished


1871 mS
 
Total length = mm                 Blade length = mm             Blade width =  mm             MRD =  mm                           
german s71 ms general.jpg (275762 bytes)german s71 ms hilt.jpg (369828 bytes)german s71 ms ricasso cross guard mark.jpg (171056 bytes)german s71 ms spine.jpg (148286 bytes)

S71 sawback

 

 

 

 

markings show it was assigned to a reserve ersatz unit

 

original acceptance mark is 1874 so is fairly early in the production period of the bayonet


1871/98
 
Total length = mm                 Blade length = mm             Blade width =  mm             MRD =  mm                           

71/98 a rehilted 1861 to fit the 1898 rifle

 

1898 style hilt fitted to the 1861 blade

 

 

Luneschloss makers mark on ricasso

 

Original 1861 date mark


1888
 
Total length = mm                 Blade length = mm             Blade width =  mm             MRD =  mm                           

Siamese 1888 used by German units in WWI

 

Condition of blade, provenance of the blade and this W spine mark are what makes the assumption that this is a German used one possible. Siamese blades do not have the W spine marking

New information has shown that the W marking on the spine is found on Siamese found bayonets, see Thailand

 

Hilt and double edged blade

 


1871
 
Total length = mm                 Blade length = mm             Blade width =  mm             MRD =  mm                           
Germany M1898.jpg (39852 bytes)

S98 with original leather scabbard


1871
 
Total length = mm                 Blade length = mm             Blade width =  mm             MRD =  mm                           
german g98 chromed.jpg (55778 bytes)

S98 with chromed scabbard, pommel and blade 


1898 shortened
 
Total length = mm                 Blade length = mm             Blade width =  mm             MRD =  mm                           

S98 shortened to 12" with shortened late pattern steel scabbard, these are referenced in Carters book on the G98 but are usually marked as Naval issue this one is not

 

Shortening of blade and scabbard is done to much higher standard than on the Turkish 10" shortened blades


1898 abs
 
Total length = mm                 Blade length = mm             Blade width =  mm             MRD =  mm                           
GERMANY_M1884I98_Sawback_removed_closeup.jpg (86472 bytes)

Close up of M1898 with sawback removed and chroming, showing sawback removal. Sawbacks were removed form German blades after 1917


1898 ersatz
 
Total length = mm                 Blade length = mm             Blade width =  mm             MRD =  mm                           
german s98 ersatz scabbard general.jpg (246919 bytes)german s98 ersatz scabbard.jpg (201138 bytes)

S98 in the less common of the ersatz metal scabbards used for this to replace the original leather ones


98/02
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length = mm              Blade width =  mm              MRD =  mm                           
  98/02 Erfurt made, canceled scabbard marks show originally issued to pioneer unit then to reserve Pioneer unit 


98/05  see the page dedicated to this model


GOTTSCHO
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length = mm              Blade width =  mm              MRD =  mm                           

Gottscho bayonet, one of the Ersatz WWI bayonets made in limited numbers and not a very successful design

 

One piece grips

 

 

Inspection mark

 

Often described as a light bulb mark (with admitted unknown reasons) the Gottscho mark is now seen  more reasonably as a ladle used in the steel making process's

 


1888/98 Ersatz Bayonets  See the dedicated page for ersatz bayonets


1871/84
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length = mm              Blade width =  mm              MRD =  mm                           

Dress version of 71/84 bayonet

 

symmetrical cross guard has no residual muzzle ring

 

 

the pommel has no provision for mounting to a rifle

 

Fuller is signed but I cannot make out the signature

 

 

WKC makers mark

 

wear on locket of scabbard shows that the bayonet has been well worn


71/84 Saxon DOA
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length = mm              Blade width =  mm              MRD =  mm                           
Three uncommon blades in one:

a Saxon marked 71/84,
original steel scabbard
DOA - German East Africa unit marks

Originally a Saxon issued piece, this bayonet was withdrawn and re issued for the use of the Askari troops in west Africa in WWI. The officers and NCO's used the KS98 - see my example - while the native troops were issued with the 71/84 and these bayonets. Although more of these would have been issued, they are the harder of the issue blades to find, probably as the troops used them as tools after the war, not souvenirs.

I had feedback on the above statement regarding the Askari troops and their use of 71/84's as follows ".  ......I think the authority on this must be Dieter Storz from the Bavarian Army Museum, the author of 'German Military Rifles.  He states that the M.71/84 rifles were never issued in the colonies, as it was felt that the weapon was too complicated for use by native troops and the M.71 was the preferred weapon.  The S.71/84 bayonet was another matter as it was often worn as a sidearm by German N.C.O. s and in any case would fit the M.71 rifle normally carried by the Askaris, alongside with captured British weapons!...."courtesy of HaltonBrat


84/98 For more of the 84/98 and its variation see the dedicated page
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length = mm              Blade width =  mm              MRD =  mm                           
Variation on blade stamping with underlined CRS marking. Scabbard marked omc 40


84/98 Sneak
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length =  Blade width = .6 MRD = 16.2
 Sneak bayonet made to circumvent the Versailles treaty restrictions on weapons manufacture. Only marking is small O under the ricasso. the serial is from post war use.


84/98 aA mS converted 71/84
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length =  Blade width = .6 MRD = 16.2
S84/98 aA mS converted from an 1888 71/84 bayonet by the addition of a new hilt. This is probably the rarest blade in my collection


84/98 S/249
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length =  Blade width = .6 MRD = 16.2
84-98 S/249


84/98 Coppel
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length =  Blade width = .6 MRD = 16.2
84-98 Coppel 1939


84/98 S/155
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length =  Blade width = . MRD = 
84-987 S/155 Jugoslav rework


84/98 S/172
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length =  Blade width =  .MRD = 
84-98 S/172 


84/98 S/238
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length =  Blade width = . MRD = 
84-98 S238 Kreigsmarine marked 


84/98 S/185
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length =  Blade width = . MRD = 
84-98 S/185 scabbard 


84/98 Herder
   

84/98 mS early version without flash guard, Herder made example has no acceptance marks on spine or pommel, Erfurt made ones have a W over 15 spine mark and pommel acceptance marks. Very few of these were made.


84/98 S/242
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length =  Blade width =  MRD = 

S242G 84/98


84/98 Stepman & Co
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length =  Blade width =  MRD = 
84/98 nA made by  Stepman & Co. bayonet has no military acceptance stamps, no spine date or pommel stamps. Scabbard is a Spanish not German one so probably not original


84/98 bym 1945
 
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One of a batch of bym marked bayonets dumped into a lake at the end of WWII from the local factory. Conditions in the lake served to preserve the bayonets and they were recovered with little corrosion. This one is in the enough condition before final shaping and drilling of press stud hole to final dimensions.
Of note is that although not finished the blade is already marked with a makers mark "bym" and the date (only the 5 is used), there is no evidence of the serial number, indicating that this at least was not stamped until near completion of the bayonet. Interesting what you an learn from unfinished goods.


1895
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length =  Blade width =  MRD = 

An Austrian 1895 accepted in German service with the WaA on the pommel, the style of stamp would indicate that this is pre WWII


1895 cut down
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length =  Blade width =  MRD = 

german cut down czech fighting knife.jpg (101294 bytes)

Fighting knife converted from Austrian 1895 bayonet, including cut down scabbard 


KS98
 
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KS98 with wood grips and scabbard markings of African issued example. The wooden gripped examples are not common, but considerably more so than the very rare rubber gripped ones.


KS98
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length =  Blade width =  MRD = 

kS98 model

 

Script F mark on cross guard is unit designation for Fernsprech (Telegraph) units (thanks Allan Herbison for the correction)


KS98 Dress
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length =  Blade width =  MRD = 

german ks98 dress with knot.jpg (322944 bytes)

german ks98 dress knot close up.jpg (455992 bytes)

german ks98 dress makers mark.jpg (196079 bytes)

german ks98 dress knot strap.jpg (228553 bytes)

KS 98 dress with frog and knot (trodel)

 

Trodel is green over silver bullion not sure of unit this designates

 

Makers mark nearly obliterated

 

 

Frog has central rivet in rear face and trodel has blue grey leather straps


DRESS
 
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Dress bayonet

 

 

Felt insert in the pommel slot

 

WKC makers mark

 

 

Grip pattern has imbedded itself in the original patent leather frog


DRESS PIONEER model
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length =  Blade width =  MRD = 

Single Etched dress knife -  PIONEER pattern, similar to the 84/98 in style

 

Etching on blade is commemoration of the owners time in service, the wear on the blade and scabbard shows this blade was carried and not just a draw item

 

 

Clearly visible frog wear on scabbard

 

Puma maker is rarer maker for these types of blades


DRESS Firemans
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length =  Blade width =  MRD = 

Fireman Bayonet, similar to the KS dress bayonets but with the distinctive s shaped crossguard. This is the less common pioneer bladed version. These do not have any method of mounting on a rifle.


DRESS Modified 98/05
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length =  Blade width =  MRD = 

Probably a converted 98/05 with shortened parallel ground blade and new pommel and grips. The pommel slot is only 20mm not the normal 40mm but slot is typical Mauser T/O type. Metal has all been plated, and the only marking is a C with a small x on the tail - I've seen this mark before but not sure where. I have put this in Germany at the moment but is probably Yugoslavian any help with ID would be appreciated.


DRESS KS98
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length =  Blade width =  MRD = 
german dress.jpg (55205 bytes)

Dress KS98, these came in various styles with and without etchings, they are a collecting field all of their own but not one that I am overly interested in


DRESS
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length =  Blade width =  MRD = 

german dress.jpg (48271 bytes)

Dress


84/98
 
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Unmarked 84/98 with all parts chromed. the blade shows atypical square fullers, and a stepped tang, both features only found on blades made my Move and another unknown maker. These are not commonly found blades. Any information on this would be appreciated


84/98 SS fantasy
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length =  Blade width =  MRD = 
Germany_hilt_SS_Fake.jpg (145010 bytes) SS Fantasy Blade based on Standard Mauser Blade


1914 BK made
 
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S14 made by BK, this variation has the fullers wrongly positioned on the blade, so that the fuller almost touches the crossguard, this has caused problems with stamping on the makers marks so that it is only partially visible.


1914 FP
 
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FP made S14


1914 Bayard
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length =  Blade width =  MRD = 

S14 made by Bayard, these always come in the Ersatz style scabbard as the blade thickness is such as to prevent the use of the S14 pattern scabbard

 

Makers mark


1914 Odeon
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length =  Blade width =  MRD = 

 

S14 Bavarian issued

 

Original scabbard painted with light grey paint (fieldgrau)

 

Screwed grips

 

 

Odeon made blade, not marked with the more normal Samson Werk. The small "90" is Bavarian serial number


1914 BK made
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length =  Blade width =  MRD = 
german s14 bk sawback.jpg (286708 bytes)germany s14 bk sawback scabbard.jpg (357193 bytes)

BK made sawback S14 bayonet

 

Re mains of original green scabbard paint still visible where it was protected by the frog


1914 ground blade
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length =  Blade width =  MRD = 
german comparison of normal and ground 1914 blades.jpg (71912 bytes)

1914 pattern bayonets, upper version has heavily ground blade removing fullers and markings, normal steel scabbard has been adjusted to still retain blade.

 

Comparison of blade thickness of altered and unaltered 1914. There is no apparent reason for this conversion, one suggestion is that it was thinned to be used a boning knife as it gives it the characteristics of that type of butchers blade

Mick O'Shea in Australia reports owning a similarly converted blade, so it is not a one off conversion.


1914 SD
 
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S1914 marked as made by SD. Anthony Carter only records a single example of this makers mark on the S1914, it is also seen with the Gottscho ladle marking.


MISCELLANEOUS 

Demag Crank Handle Ersatz (genuine)

 

 

Makers mark

 

DEMAG marking


Converted 1866
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length =  Blade width =  MRD = 

Converted 1866


Converted 1866
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length =  Blade width =  MRD = 
german issue 1866 chassepot.jpg (79920 bytes)german issue 1866 chassepot scabbard mod.jpg (117079 bytes)

Re issued French 1866 Chassepot 

 

Chassepot modified scabbard 


84/98 nA 1920 marked
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length =  Blade width =  MRD = 
A 1918 made 84/98 nA re issued in 1920 to the Weimar republic (the 1920 stamp was on all officially issued pieces. Original Unit marks are scored out on scabbard


98/05 Weimar issue
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length =  Blade width =  MRD = 
Another Weimar re issue this time a 98/05 the cut out in the pommel was to turn the blade into a side arm as it was meant to disable the locking stud. this one has had all of the stud assembly welded/brazed and chromed, and the grips replaced with horn grips. In addition there has been a "latch" fitted to the spine which would prevent it fitting into a standard scabbard.
Currently I am unsure of status of this piece. IS it a dress piece? if so why has V notch been left in and not filled.


POLISH M28 mobilization
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length =  Blade width =  MRD = 

Polish M28 Mobilization bayonet used by German Kreigsmarine unit

 

 

RADOM manufactured with low serial number of "20"

 

 

Only German marking on Blade is the WaA on the blade spine

 

 

Significance of grip marks and whether German or Polish is unknown

 

 

1940 date on Kregsmarine frog

 

 

Painted mark on frog is similar to unit marks found on the front of German vehicles of the time (ID please?)


Converted Dutch 1895
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length =  Blade width =  MRD = 
Converted Dutch 1895, blade has been shortened and the scabbard cut to fit.


Converted VZ24
 
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Fighting knife made from a cut down czechVZ24, came in early pre 1940 production 84/98 scabbard with 1940 marked frog

 

 comparison of fighter with full length un modified bayonet

 

Interestingly the scabbard is only marked with a serial number on the back face for the throat

 

 

 

 

1940 dated frog

 

Childs Bayonet
Total length = mm                  Blade length =  Blade width =  MRD = 
Childs bayonet from 30's?


POST WWII 


M7 commercial
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length =  Blade width =  MRD = 
Switzerland M7.jpg (49023 bytes)

M7 styled commercial 


KCB
 
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Commercial Short there are a large number of variations on this style of blade, with and without wire cutters and sawback. They were made to fit onto nearly all rifles available in the 70's and 80's including the AK47


KCB long
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length =  Blade width =  MRD = 

german commercial long.jpg (91181 bytes)

Commercial bayonet, long version with saw back and wire cutter attachments


KCB Eickhorn
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length =  Blade width =  MRD = 

Eickhorn made KCB for the M16, blade has just the Eickhorn Squirrel  so is an original early version 


KCB Knife
 
Total length = mm                  Blade length =  Blade width =  MRD = 
GERMANY KCB FIGHTING KNIFE.jpg (90566 bytes)

KCB style dagger without rifle fittings for use as a fighting knife


Early G3
 
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Early pattern G3 bayonet with grooved wooden grips and Danish  M8 style scabbard with the wood grain finish.

Commonly known as the Rheinmettal G3 these were made by Eickhorn and a similar bayonet with a different pommel was made for the M16 rifle

thanks to Bill porter for the extra info


G3
 
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Totally unmarked I believe this is either a German G3 bayonet or one of theirs for export. The bayonet is completely unmarked


KCB Eickhorn for SIG
 
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Eickhorn made prototype KCB bayonet for the SIG series of rifles, with the distinctive pommel catch

GERMANY AK47 MODIFIED FOR G3.jpg (92099 bytes)GERMANY AK47 MODIFIED FOR G3 HILT DETAIL.jpg (79788 bytes) G36 a AKM bayonet modified for use with the G36 assault rifle

 

Close up of hilt of modified AKM 

Total length = 299 mm                  Blade length = 173 mm              Blade width = 30.1 mm              MRD = 22.1 mm                           


GMS M16 KCB
 
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GMS M16 bayonet. The German company GMS bought out the bankrupt Eickhorn and produced their own bayonets with the Eickhorn Squirrel. This although superficially the same as the KCB series has a different scabbard body, and a comp[letly different wire cutter design as Eickhorn had the patent on this still.