CHINA

1935 Chiang Kai Sheck rifle
 
Total length = 568 mm                  Blade length =  436mm              Blade width =  mm              MRD = 15.4 mm                           
The 1935 Chiang Kai Sheck rifle bayonet, first impression is of a 1907 copy but hilt is a Mauser with TO slot and slanted pommel. Scabbard should be all leather


Scabbard
China Scabbard
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Chinese scabbard, it came with a UK 1907 but I think it is for the Chinese mauser bayonets


Unknown The first of the Fakes flooding the market from China, this was bought when first released adn the theought was these were "Ersatz" style reworks of French blads for Mauser rifles, that was soon realised to be untrue.
  
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Bayonet for unknown rifle, uses original 1874 French Gras blade, scabbard and cross guard with new pommel and grips

 

Crossguard and just visible is the original Gras ricasso mark

 

 

Original Arsenal marks re just visible on spine of blade

 

 

UK 1856 style pommel with wooden grips cut to resemble the French 1866 Chassepot bayonet

 

Pommel looks very similar to the 1856 Yataghan style in shape and style


ARISAKA
 
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Mukden Arisaka made after the Japanese had left

 

Crudely made blade has Mukden arsenal stamp on the ricasso. Blade shows heavy signs of grinding under a dark blued finish (Juken30) has identified the additional ricasso mark as the 90th Arsenal under National Chinese control (1945 to 1948) Many thanks

 

 

Late war pattern crossguard and pommel combined with grips held together by rivets 

 

 

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Chinese made Arisaka with original frog

 

Frog s modelled on the original Japanese pattern

 

Original Frog reverse side

 

 

Hilt uses Japanese style oval screws

 

Crude Braze on attaching the pommel to the tang

 

 

Is this a marking or just corrosion marks Bill (Juken30 ) has identified this mark as the Arsenal marking for the 90th Arsenal under Communist control


1920 Mauser
  
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China 1920.jpg (64803 bytes) 1920 model based on UK 1907 / Japanese Ariska style blade.
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Bayonet made for a Mauser type bayonet

 

Hilt, note that the fixings are oval as in the Japanese Arisaka blades

 

 

Also rivets are not central on tang


GRAS or PEABODY COPY
  
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Not sure if this is supposed to be a copy of the Gras or of the Peabody

 

T backed blade is not as well formed as European blades with very heavy T and less defined T shape

 

 

Hilt is straight backed not humped as for the Gras

 

Frog strap on scabbard is much narrower than the European made ones and scabbard is of thinner material

 

 

Pommel is ground flat to allow it to mount, maybe like the Germans the original Gras Hump has been removed to fit to a later type rifle

 

1871(?) date and unknown blade script


BELGIAN ERSATZ
  
Total length =455 mm blade length =23.8 mm blade width =23.8 mm MRD=15.9 mm
Pressed steel hilt, similar to those used on some German WWI ersatz blades

Belgian made Ersatz bayonet, uses old Belgian socket blade fixed to a sheet steel hilt.

Total length =488 mm blade length =28.7 mm blade width =28.7 mm MRD=none mm
blade length =23.8 mm blade width =23.8 mm MRD=15.9 mm

Belgian made "ersatz" using a Belgian socket blade to make a new bayonet for a Mauser type rifle

 

rather crude wooden grips with Germanic style hilt anad cross guard

 

 

 

 

 

 

Interesting very well made and substantial scabbard

  
Total length =488 mm blade length =28.7 mm blade width =28.7 mm MRD=none mm

Belgian made bayonets for China, essentially similar these two have variations in the grips retaining screws/bolts, one is blued the other is not and the in white blade only shows a half muzzle ring which is different to all other blades of this type I have or know of

6 Belgian produced bayonets, these use Geramn WWI ersatz bayonets and parts from other swords and bayonets as their basis. It is thought that they were produced in small "workshops" to bring work in the aftermath of WWI. I suppose the identification should be 1920, as are the other Chinese blades of this period but these are not shown in the texts, and as they are conversions may end up being like the Turkish conversions in their numbers.

  
Total length =488 mm blade length =28.7 mm blade width =28.7 mm MRD=none mm

Not sure if this is a conversion of another blade or not, it has some similarity to the 1907 style blade but.......

  
Total length =488 mm blade length =28.7 mm blade width =28.7 mm MRD=none mm

Converted German ersatz

 

Hilt has been machined to allow inset wooden grips, original muzzle ring has been removed

 

 

 

 

original German inspection mark on the spine

  
Total length =488 mm blade length =28.7 mm blade width =28.7 mm MRD=none mm

Converted 98/05 ersatz style bayonet in original 98/05 leather scabbard, I would think that the issue would have been in a steel scabbard not leather unless for a specific purpose i.e. NCO?

 

wooden grips inset into original steel hilt

 

the grooves in the original hilt are still visible

 

 

Grips are very thin

 

German inspection mark on spine still visible

 

  
Total length =488 mm blade length =28.7 mm blade width =28.7 mm MRD=none mm

Is this a conversion of another German blade, possibly a re shaped 98/05 style ersatz

 

all steel hilt has German ersatz style

 

very thin grips

 

 

blunt blade, is this due to the re shaping of the original butcher blade shape?

  
Total length =488 mm blade length =28.7 mm blade width =28.7 mm MRD=none mm

is this another ersatz conversion, the blade heavily ground on the ricasso, hilt style is similar to the 98/05

  
Total length =488 mm blade length =28.7 mm blade width =28.7 mm MRD=none mm

Another German Ersatz conversion

 

Removed muzzle ring and wooden grip inserts

 

 

cross guard is crudely ground off

 

 

 

 

again very shallow grips inserts


French 1866 copy
   
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French 1866 copy, has stepped hilt similar to the German WWI conversions to fit the 1871

 

 

Blade fullers extend under the cross guard

 

Hilt spring is very thin

 

 

Blade is narrower than the Chassepot and muzzle ring adjuster uses nut and bolt

 

Hilt grooves are very crudely made

 

 

Comparison of French and Chinese models

 

Side view of French and Chinese versions

 

 

German style frog stud


MAUSER MADE WITH ARISAKA BLADE
  
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Chinese Mauser made with Japanese Arisaka blade

 

 

Tokyo arsenal Arisaka blade

 

Grips are made with screw headed

 

Rivets


FANTASY PIECE
  
Total length =330 mm blade length =22.4 mm blade width =22.4 mm MRD= mm

Fake paratrooper bayonet, appears to attempt to be a Japanese type 100

Marked with 1917

and US marking

Crude pommel

Scabbard is apparently marked with para wings  over a star, not sure what the markings are meant to represent

Scabbard is also marked with a US-M8 marking. Amazing piece


Type 53 folding
  
Total length =312 mm blade length =21 mm blade width =21 mm MRD=18 mm

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Type 53 folding

Fixed folding bayonet


Type 56 folding
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COMMERCIAL AK47
  
Total length =312 mm blade length =22 mm blade width =22 mm MRD=17.5 mm
china ak47 commercial.jpg (69512 bytes) Commercially produced AK47 bayonet, with red wood grips 


AKM TYPE 2 without wirecutter
  
Total length =272 mm blade length =30 mm blade width =30 mm MRD=18 mm
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AKM Type 2

 
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AKM type 2

 
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The mythical green AK, it takes bright sunlight just to show the item is green, in most light it looks black, it needs glancing bright sunlight to raise the green cast. Side by side with a black in room light it looks the same
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AK bayonet collecting is often about minutia, in this case the hilt is held with a brass rivet


AKM TYPE 2 with wire cutter
  
Total length =272 mm blade length =30 mm blade width =30 mm MRD=18 mm

Norinco made AKM provided with SVD copies in the USA, these are commercial rather than military blades, but made by the same factories

 

 

The pommel is slightly different to the Russian models

 

The colour of the Chinese bayonets is distinctive, with a semi matt finish


T81
  
Total length =298 mm blade length =24 mm blade width =24 mm MRD=22 mm
T81, must be the bluntest bayonet ever made, as there is no edge on it at all
Total length =296 mm blade length =23 mm blade width =23 mm MRD=17 mm
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T81 modified to fit US M1 Carbine 

 

Muzzle ring and pommel modifications to fit the M1

 

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If the seller is to be believed this is a Chinese trainer bayonet complete with rubber blade, and Chinese hilt plate. I believe it is more likely another Chinese fantasy piece, cant see Velcro being military standard to hold a blade on a rifle