Sword Bayonets C-E

 CanadaChile, ChinaCzechoslovakia, Denmark, Egypt,

For sorting purposes I have chosen Bayonets with above  12" blades to be classed as "Sword"

(more to come) Note:- click on image for larger version of images

CANADA

1893 model based on the UK 1888 blade with a new cross guard and longer hilt only 1000 of these blades were made.

Sword Bayonets content page

 

badly pitted blade still shows Wilkinson makers mark

 

Longer hilt and stepped muzzle ring (ring is cracked)

 

 

Sold from Service marking

canada vickers 1907 markings.jpg (98259 bytes)UK 1907 pattern Bayonet

 

UK 1907 pattern bayonet Ricasso stamps showing Vickers manufacture and Canadian acceptance marks 

 

CHILE

Modified 1874 Gras has new high cross guard with the muzzle ring machined back to give the correct lock to ring length, and the back of the pommel is shaved to align bayonet properly

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Dress blade for Police, German made from cut down French Gras bayonet blade and scabbard

 

CHINA

Bayonet for unknown rifle, uses original 1874 French Gras blade, scabbard and cross guard with new pommel and grips

 

Crossguard and just visible is the original Gras ricasso mark

 

Original Arsenal marks re just visible on spine of blade

 

 

UK 1856 style pommel with wooden grips cut to resemble the French 1866 Chassepot bayonet

Pommel looks very similar to the 1856 Yataghan style in shape and style

 

Chinese made Arisaka with original frog

 

Frog s modelled on the original Japanese pattern

 

 

Original Frog reverse side

 

Hilt uses Japanese style oval screws

 

 

Crude Braze on attaching the pommel to the tang

 

Is this a marking or just corrosion marks (Juken30 ) has identified this mark as the Arsenal marking for the 90th Arsenal under Communist control

Bayonet made for a Mauser type bayonet

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Hilt, note that the fixings are oval as in the Japanese Arisaka blades

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Also rivets are not central on tang

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Not sure if this is supposed to be a copy of the Gras or of the Peabody

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T backed blade is not as well formed as European blades with very heavy T and less defined T shape

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Hilt is straight backed not humped as for the Gras

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Frog strap on scabbard is much narrower than the European made ones and scabbard is of thinner material

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Pommel is ground flat to allow it to mount, maybe like the Germans the original Gras Hump has been removed to fit to a later type rifle

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1871(?) date and unknown blade script

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Belgian made Ersatz bayonet, uses old Belgian socket blade fixed to a sheet steel hilt.

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Pressed steel hilt, similar to those used on some German WWI ersatz blades

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Belgian made "ersatz" using a Belgian socket blade to make a new bayonet for a Mauser type rifle

 

rather crude wooden grips with Germanic style hilt and cross guard

 

 

 

 

 

 

Interesting very well made and substantial scabbard

French 1866 copy, has stepped hilt similar to the German WWI conversions to fit the 1871
Blade fullers extend under the cross guard
Hilt spring is very thin
Blade is narrower than the Chassepot and muzzle ring adjuster uses nut and bolt
Hilt grooves are very crudely made
Comparison of French and Chinese models

 

Side view of French and Chinese versions

German style frog stud 

 

Shaved Hilt of 2nd "1866" obtained from China

 

Shaved hilt

 

Interesting spine mark, Christopher Colombus naming, Sellers information indicated that this blade was that of a major in the allied forces during the boxer rebellion in 1900-1901

 

Throat of scabbard

   

Crossguard is very slack on tang with excessive hilt clearance

 

Crude press stud, looks hand ground

 

Top of muzzle ring is held by simple nut and bolt

 

 

Frog stud is a lot thinner than the similar frog stud fitted to German 1866 conversions

 

 

Impressive Certificate of authenticity supplied with blade

 

Text indicates that the blade was to the best of the knowledge a French 1866 chassepot used during war of 1900-1901

Mukden Arisaka made after the Japanese had left

 

Crudely made blade has Mukden arsenal stamp on the ricasso. Blade shows heavy signs of grinding under a dark blued finish (Juken30) has identified the additional ricasso mark as the 90th Arsenal under National Chinese control (1945 to 1948) Many thanks

 

Late war pattern crossguard and pommel combined with grips held together by a rivets 

 

rivets hold the grips together

Chinese Mauser made with Japanese Arisaka blade

 

Tokyo arsenal Arisaka blade

 

Grips are made with screw headed

 

Rivets

China 1920.jpg (64803 bytes)1920 model based on UK 1907 / Japanese Arisaka style blade.

6 Belgian produced bayonets, these use German WWI ersatz bayonets and parts from other swords and bayonets as their basis. It is thought that they were produced in small "workshops" to bring work in the aftermath of WWI. I suppose the identification should be 1920, as are the other Chinese blades of this period but these are not shown in the texts, and as they are conversions may end up being like the Turkish conversions in their numbers.

Not sure if this is a conversion of another blade or not, it has some similarity to the 1907 style blade but.......

Converted German ersatz

 

Hilt has been machined to allow inset wooden grips, original muzzle ring has been removed

 

 

 

 

original German inspection mark on the spine

Converted 98/05 ersatz style bayonet in original 98/05 leather scabbard, I would think that the issue would have been in a steel scabbard not leather unless for a specific purpose i.e. NCO?

 

wooden grips inset into original steel hilt

 

the grooves in the original hilt are still visible

 

 

Grips are very thin

 

German inspection mark on spine still visible

 

Is this a conversion of another German blade, possibly a re shaped 98/05 style ersatz

 

all steel hilt has German ersatz style

 

very thin grips

 

 

blunt blade, is this due to the re shaping of the original butcher blade shape?

is this another ersatz conversion, the blade heavily ground on the ricasso, hilt style is similar to the 98/05

Another German Ersatz conversion

 

Removed muzzle ring and wooden grip inserts

 

 

cross guard is crudely ground off

 

 

 

 

again very shallow grips inserts

Fixed folding bayonet

 

CZECHOSLOVAKIA

 German S98 nA mS used by Czech forces after WWI not only has it got a Czech arsenal mark it appears to have a Czech serial on the pommel as well.  A not common German blade and one of only 3 examples I know of

Refurbished German 98/05 used by initial units on formation of Czech republic in 1918
E Lion 23 markings on 98/05

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DENMARK
Danish 1867.jpg (69633 bytes)Danish  hilt markings.jpg (71173 bytes)Danish 1867 hilt markings2.jpg (94610 bytes)1867 with shortened blade 

 

 

Markings on  cross guard

 

Makers Marking

1867 with muzzle ring filled and all mounting attachments in pommel filled in and chromed with Horn grips
thanks to Jeff and Alistair for this
1915
denmark 1914.jpg (70803 bytes)denmark 1914 pommel.jpg (85776 bytes)1915

 

Pommel

 

EGYPT

egyptian 1867-70 remington.jpg (74718 bytes)egyptian 1867-70 remington chassepot hilt comparison.jpg (100271 bytes)1867/70 Remington 

 

Ricasso stamp

 

Comparison of Remington Hilt with French Chassepot hilt 

1867/70 Remington. with Arabic script

 

 

on both sides of bayonet

 

and on the pommel

 

 

Remington slot without chamfer found on the French 1866 Chassepot. Note B  in slot, significance of this is not yet known

Snider bayonet, found with two different muzzle rings and with both forward and reward facing Quillions, blade is a Yataghan style. Scabbard is brass mounted leather. These bayonets are often quoted as Confederate Slab side bayonet but are from a period after the end of the American Civil war.

This is the large muzzle ring variation with a diameter of  22.5mm. There are no marks on this bayonet. Grips are two brass grips riveted to a steel cross guard. Examples can be found with PDL made blades, this one has only a C mark on the ricasso

Snider bayonet, found with two different muzzle rings and with both forward and reward facing Quillions, blade is a Yataghan style. This is the smaller muzzle ring variation with a diameter of 19.8mm.  There are no marks on this bayonet. Grips are two brass grips riveted to a steel cross guard. Examples can be found with PDL made blades

These bayonets are often quoted as Confederate Slab side bayonet but are from a period after the end of the American Civil war.

1914, as 1867 with a new made crossguard for the 303 rifle, many of these are marked for police use but this one only has the pommel marks in Arabic

UK 1876 modified to fit a Lee Enfield 303

 

 

Scabbard is brown leather with brass mounts

 

Egyptian markings on the blade

 

 

Egyptian markings on the blade two faces are marked

 

Bushed socket to fit 303

 

 

UK markings on the top of the blade

 

Remington Yataghan modified to fit 303 rifle

 

 

Conversion for Enfield rifle involved sectioning the original cross guard and fitting a new section with the new muzzle ring

 

German manufacturer mark

 

Arabic serial on pommel of UK 1903, thought to be Egyptian

 

Arabic serial on pommel of UK 1907, thought to be Egyptian

 

 

Ricasso marks on 1907 show it to be new made in 1928 by Sanderson and blued to old original style not UK style of period