Frogs PtII

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Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Canada, Commercial, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Ghana, Greece, Holland, Hungary, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Lithuania, Mexico, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Rhodesia, Rumania, South Africa, South Korea, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, UK, Unknown, USA, Yugoslavia

 

GHANA

CBF 179

Police frog for the 1907  

 

GREECE
CBF*** for the 1903 bayonet
CBF*** For the 1903 bayonet this one has Greek marking on rear

 

UK1907 frog

  UK1907 this one stamped with makers mark, similar to above but without hilt strap
  For the 1903
  Greek UK No4 frog
CBF xxx FN FAL as used by National guard there are slight variations in the frog, the two shown have different lengths and other details
CBF xxx Similar to the above however the narrow band is now the bottom rather than the top strap

 

HOLLAND

CBF 364

1895 Mannlicher frog, permanently attached to scabbard

 

 

 

HUNGARY

  Hungary for 1895 Gendarmerie
 

Heavily modified 1895 frog, could this be a cavalry conversion to allow it to hang on a horses harness?

 

INDIA

CBF 162

 

CBF 162 Indian produced frog with a narrow upper loop specifically for No4 bayonet. Carter indicates this is a scarce pattern, this is not an official pattern
CBF 162 No4 frog 1944 made
  India Police issue frog for 1907

 

INDONESIA

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Integral frog on Indonesian ex Dutch 1895 

 

IRAN

Reproduction Frog for 98/22 evident by streaked finish and totally new smell
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Web frog for the G3

 

IRAQ
CBF 154 UK 37 pattern frogs retrieved from Iraq, probably used by Iraq forces after withdrawal of UK troops

 

IRELAND

UVF frog for the 1904 bayonet

  More UVF frogs courtesy of Michael Curran, these were freely available in the shops and were made for a variety of blades, seen her the UK1888, The Romanian 1904, Italian Vettereli and the French Gras

 

ISRAEL

CBF 154 UK 37 pattern frogs remarked with Israel Army acceptance marks 1951 makers marks
 

For the 1949 pattern bayonets

 

ITALY

CBF 334 M1870-71 copy by Harry Savage
  Reproduction WWI Ersatz Frog
  Italy frog
 

Frog for 1871
(thanks to Harry Savage for identification)

CBF 335

 

CBF 337

 

  two variations of 91 Carcano frogs
CBF 339 Tool holder Frog for 1891 second hole is to carry an ax and the strap is to hold the head down
CBF 339 Combination frog for the 1891, second hole is to carry an ax and the strap is to hold the head down
thanks to Verbruggen Luc for picture
CBF 339 Ax holder Frog for 1891 in green
 

Original frog for TS bayonet

 

JAPAN

CBF***
Reproduction Early pattern frog for the Mratu Bayonets
CBF*** Reproduction Late pattern  frog for the Mratu Bayonets
CBF 586  Carter indicates that this frog has the leather strap and buckle riveted on, my example has it sewn on, so there are at least two variations of this frog 
CBF 354 Obtained with a job lot this late war frog has lost its strap and buckle off the front
  Frog typically found on the T1 paratrooper bayonet. I have not yet got a translation of the characters on the tag.
The tag is apparently the end of the soldiers toothbrush, which has been cut off and attached to the frog, this is apparently not uncommon (thanks to various BCN members for this information
 

Late pattern T30 Arisaka with rubber scabbard

 

 

Scabbard has integral frog

CBF 359

Leather frog for the Arisaka

 

CBF 358 Harry Savage reproduction of a webbing frog with a leather attachment strap.

CBF *** Harry Savage reproduction of a light brown  leather frog with elongated hole in belt loop.
CBF *** Harry Savage reproduction of a straight single belt strap frog no hole in strap
CBF *** Harry Savage reproduction of a similar to above with a hole through the back leather
CBF *** Harry Savage reproduction of a unfinished leather double strap frog
  CBF *** Harry Savage reproduction of a frog made from a single piece of leather folded over to form belt loops sewn and riveted. the front of the frog is sewn and riveted as well.
  CBF *** Harry Savage reproduction of a double strap frog
  CBF *** Rubberized frog with missing front strap, front sewn and riveted in place.
CBF 586  Carter indicates that this frog has the leather strap and buckle riveted on, my example has it sewn on, so there are at least two variations of this frog 

 

LITHUANIA
Lithuanian frogs for the AKM bayonets, there are two different models a leather and a web and they attach to the gear differently, is one dress and one service?

There are 3 different "green" frogs, an early fine textured pattern that is very "bright", a coarse NATO style one shown here and a finer pattern with similar coloring. There is also a desert cammo version that comes in two variations
  Leather "dress" version of the frog
No example yet   A very "bright" fine camouflage pattern, not common the original pattern  matching Lithuanian camouflage pattern
  2nd pattern frog has a fine patterning but uses darker colors than the first
  3rd pattern of woodland resembles the coloring of the NATO woodland camouflage
  Only 120 troops were apparently involved in the Iraq war, most of the ones of these I have seen are mint, mine shows signs of wear, could it be an actual issue one rather than excess stock?
  The second pattern woodland camouflage frog uses a less bright pattern than the first, and is similar in construction to one of the two desert camouflage variations

 

MEXICO
CBF xxx Identification is tentative and based on sellers ID
CBF xxx Ammunition bandolier and frog from 1930's frog is to take a knife type bayonet
thanks to Shawn for ID

 

NEW ZEALAND

CBF 197New Zealand frog for the 1903/1907 but in this case on an 1888 
CBF 1971903 -1907  another of Shamans excellent reproductions compare with real one above
 

Badge is UK unit

 

Dress frog

 

NORWAY

CBF 375 Near mint frog for the 1914 Krag
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CBF 376 Very distinctive frog for the Norwegian 1894 Krag bayonet. this has a catch on the loop to fix it to the metal scabbard and a unit mark on the rear face made using a series of pin holes

 

POLAND

 thanks to Andrew Adams for pictures
CBF 378 Reproduction of a frog for the 98/05 German bayonet or the French 1874. Slot is t shaped to take either the German Stud or the French staple

 

AK47 bayonet frog, often the scabbards come without the leather frog.

Leather Frog obverse

 

Leather frog front

 

PORTUGAL

CBF 382

Militia (legion Portuguese a pre WWII fascist militia) marked frog for the 84/98 contract bayonets

CBF 383 1904 Mauser frog
 

Unknown "frog" found on a 1904 bayonet, container must be for some form of tool, possibly part of a horses harness????

 Portugal, combined frog and entrenching tool carrier 
CBF

Bayonet and ax combination frog

 

Frog for the SMG bayonet, allows it to sit slanted for drivers etc.

 

RHODESIA

 

Webb frog for the FN FAL bayonet permanently fixed to scabbard

 

RUMANIA

  Black leather for AKM
  Brown leather for AKM
  Leather and green webbing for AKM
CBF XXX AKM Frog made from green Nylon webbing, this changes color markedly depending on light source,
  Frog from a "dress" bayonet with distinctive pebble grain finish for AKM

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Frogs for the VZ24, one is unmarked the other shows a 1953 date stamp which is very late

thanks to christi for the identification from the makers mark

 

SOUTH AFRICA

 South African buff frog
 South Africa web frog for UZI
 

South African quilted frog

CBF 575M Modified leather frog, the additional line of stitching takes the South African produced No9 bayonet with the UZI blade
CBF 580 Pouch with in built FN FAL frog
CBF XXX 1907 frog with SA acceptance mark
CBF 172 South African Air Force web frog Bayonet Frog No6
CBF 582  1970 pattern

 

SOUTH KOREA

 

Web frog with wire clip to fit US pattern webbing Clip fixed to original scabbard

 

reverse of frog

 

SPAIN

  Remington 1871 socket bayonet frog,
  Spanish Model 1896 Colonial Infantry Bayonet Frog Cuba War
  Spanish Republican Barcelona Maker Marked
Thanks to Jeff
  Spanish civil war rubberized frog
Thanks to Jeff
CBF 396 Nationalist Frog from Spanish Civil war period
CBF 397 Nationalist Frog from Spanish Civil war period
CBF395 Mauser
   Mauser frog WWII period 
  1893 reproduction
  Totally riveted frog
  Some form of dress frog as evident by the padded back side. There was a tab with a D ring on the front but this was lost in shipping but it is clear on the front where there is a cut out for the ring to fit.
 

Thought to be a dress pattern frog for the Spanish 1893 short

 

SWEDEN

CBF xxx Sword bayonet frog
CBF 400

NCO frog for the 1896 Mauser, in unissued condition

CBF 400 NCO Frog
 M1914 Sawback
 

CBF405 Swedish frog for the M1914 bayonet this one has had the diagonal strap removed and is painted white for dress/ceremonial duties

  Cavalry frog on 1914 bayonet, also can be found in white
 

1914 modified

    Converted frog 

 

M1914 scabbard modified by removing the original diagonal strap and adding a vertical one. This variation is not shown in Carter, although there are many variations to the conversions

 

Another M1914 conversion, this is probably for the 1896 as the strap is lower than the above

 

SWITZERLAND

CBF 410 Original Swiss K31 frog with the buckle to attach to the strap permanently attached to the scabbard, and the gradual variation of the frog to the final Stg57 frog produced in the 80's
  Modified by removing buckle and adding loop for STG57
CBF586  Modified CB410 with the buckle removed and a stud and strap added to use with the STG 57 bayonet 
 

1957 Early version conversion with the original loop for the strap and buckle sill in place

CBF 587  New made for the STG57 this has the frog strap and a loop to hold it secure, similar to the earlier converted frogs made in 60's
CBF 588 Final frog version for the STG 57 bayonet, new produced in 70's and 80's not a modification of earlier frogs. The semi circular cut out id no longer in the folded belt loop area.
CBF 588  
CBF 588  
CBF 410 Original Swiss K31 frog with the buckle to attach to the strap permanently attached to the scabbard, and the gradual variation of the frog to the final Stg57 frog produced in the 80's
  Post WWII cavalry
 

For the M1970 bayonet in rubberized fabric

 

TURKEY

  1903 frog the wear on the scabbard is consistent with use, but construction is poor
 copy by Harry Savage
CBF xxx Not sure if this is genuine or not, there is Turkish numerals on the inside surface but are these original or the reproducers phone number?? Like to think it is original, but........
Note it is much thinner than the one above, I was trying for a worn real one but it got removed from EBAY when the seller found there were a lot of followers and never went back up once identified.
 

1918 pattern ersatz frog, uses multiple layers of thin leather rather than one piece of heavier.

 

Frog used on 35 pattern bayonets, most seen have been in heavily repaired condition with a wide range of sewing or riveting.

 Turkey No4 frog converted by a second row of stitching form a Mauser pattern frog 
  Mauser frog on German Ersatz with Turkish markings
 Turkish Mauser modified for Lebel, or is it just another No4 one?

 

UNKNOWN
  Interesting nylon frog with extra strengthening portion added on rear. made by Eickhorn for their FNFAL tubular bayonet
  heavily modified but by whom and when and what for?
   
  heavily modified but by whom and when and what for?
   
CBF xxx From the size and style I am assuming this is a sword frog, but may be for one of the larger sword bayonets
CBF xxx Unknown frog made from recycled hide, made to fit on US style webbing 
  Heavy well made frog for the UK No4???

 

UK

 For more information have a look at http://www.karkeeweb.com/patterns/ frogs can be found by following navigation through equipment carriers for each pattern year 
 UK Web frog
 This home guard frog is unusual in having a WD stamp on the back
CBF 96

Naval frog for the 1888

CBF 90

1907 frog

CBF093 GS MkII frog modified to accept the 1907 with a hooked quillion by adding a leather spacer to push the blade out and curve the front section to allow the quillion to fit
  Volunteer frog
 

'08 pattern helve carrier strapping, I am fairly sure this is a fake made from old leather, partially on the manufacture and partly on the price paid (i.e. cheap) although the stamping is correct for this pattern,

CBF 133 Straps for helve carrier on P08 leather gear, the original buckles have been removed (to repair another item maybe?)

CBF 120

Naval issued P08, Web is marked with N and so is the brass tag on the helve strap. This one was used by a film prop company.

It is not possible to distinguish the stamped on date

 UK 1922 made 
CBF 127

Sandhurst frog

 

CBF 128

Sandhurst frog made in 1941

 

CBF 152

RAF frog without the belt snap stud, color is a pale blue grey

 

CBF 154

Frog for No4 bayonet in green

 

CBF 154

Frog for No4 bayonet in white dress Blanco

 

CBF 154

Frog for No4 bayonet in Khaki

 

CDB 168 dress white blanco'd frog
CBF 164

Home guard frog for the P14/P17 bayonet supplied on lend lease during early part of WWII, allowed US pattern scabbard to be use don UK webbing

 

CBF 164, variation not in book

Interesting conversion of a WWII Home guard frog with top strap modified to take a buckle

 

Close up of modifications

 

CBF 165

Press stud variation of VP scabbard, the frog was attached by press studs rather than permanently   attached. unfortunately in this case the strap is missing leaving only the body and the press studs

 

CBF 166

Reproduction for movie use of the airborne No4 frog with the added pouch used to store the keeper plate for the Sten which was used to seal the hole when the detachable stock was removed.

 

CBF 165

 

CBF 167 UK web frog colored for airborne regiment
CBF 172 No6 Parade
thanks to Graham Priest
 

No 9 frog heavily blancoed dress frog. Is TOPP 840 the troopers name and number?

 

Unknown "scabbard" a 1907 fits in the web, and I was told it was a scabbard made for tropical use, but the single row of stitches makes me suspicious, although I have been sent pictures of a short 1907 in a similar but shorter web scabbard, again any ideas are welcome

CBF 168

Dress frog on L1A1made in 1966

 

  Black Plastic dress frog
 

Dress cover for the SA80 bayonet

 

Green nylon cover for the SA80, there are several "commercial" frogs/scabbards for the SA80 despite there not being commercial sales of the type, as the British forces is the only force lumbered with this weapon

  Supplied as for the 1888 pattern bayonet I think this is more likely a tool holder, would welcome identification
     

 

 

UNKNOWN

UNKNOWN
  Sword frog of unknown origin
  From the size and style I am assuming this is a sword frog, but may be for one of the larger sword bayonets
    Unknown frog made from recycled hide, made to fit on US style webbing 
  very small frog stud hole
  Blancoed frog with markings on the rear
    unknown with side strap 
  
  
 Frog that came with an 84/98 fitted with a Lebel Handle is apparently an Italian made one (signs of where the conversion was done maybe?)
  Interesting nylon frog with extra strengthening portion added on rear. made by Eickhorn for their FNFAL tubular bayonet
  Heavy well made frog for the UK No4???
   
  

 

USA
   
    Reproduction Revolutionary war period frog 
  cbf ***  Shovel cover with mount to allow bayonet to be carried in the original sheath with attached frog/hanger 
  US West point Cadet scabbard and attached frog only 1000 were made
CBF*** Reproduction Snell bayonet frog
  Copy of the frog for the Dahlgren bayonet from the 1970's

 

YUGOSLAVIA

  Early frog with semi circular cut out
CBF***
Early frog for the VZ23 and VZ24 bayonets as its cut  out is to take the round frog stud on these scabbards
CBF xxx Converted pre war frog to hold French Lebel bayonet as used by the Germans for rear echelon troops in WWII. The cut out in the lower portion is square and not round as the reproduction ones I have, this sis probably to be used with Czech style L shaped frog studs (VZ22), while the half round cut out is for the later VZ 23/24 style frog stud.
CBF xxx Early  Pattern VZ22 frogs, the strap is to hold the scabbard and not as the later versions the hilt. These are reproductions made by Jaygo (jaygo214@gmail.com)
  Converted pre war frog to hold French Lebel bayonet as used by the Germans for rear echelon troops in WWII. The cut out in the lower portion is square and not round as the reproduction ones I have, this sis probably to be used with Czech style L shaped frog studs, while the half round cut out is for the later VZ 24 style frog stud.
CBF 423Often sold on line as German these are actually Yugoslavian, The German skeleton frog has its strap further up the frog and uses straight rows of stitches with rivets. See CBF318.There are variations on the theme with different lengths
  Post WWII
  Post WWII modified hole

 

 

  Very poor reproduction of 24 frog, leather is thing and not stiff, hard to miss

 

Swedish, unmodified 
German with Aluminum rivets 
 Germany Brown leather