GERMAN 84/98 VARIATIONS.

The 84/98 or K98 was the standard bayonet of the German army after WWI until the end of WWII. The following is a summary of the main variations that can be found, it does not cover all of the  different makers marks nor dates, although you will find serious WWII collectors of the type who try for complete sets of makers and dates. My collection is to try to gain one of each of what I consider the main variations, plus the two WWII makers that were not based in Germany (I have one so far). After WWI some of the early blades were used by the Turks, and after WWI the Czechs and the Yugoslavians both reworked examples for sale and/or use by their own troops. In 1949 the Israelis used German marked Mauser bayonets to which they added muzzle rings in their war of independence, and even made local copies of the blade. The only other country to make the blade other than German occupied countries was Spain that made two versions of the blade for their own use.

Several other nations used the blades, although many are not distinguishable by any distinctive markings, and it may only be frog variations that will indicate their use. Norway is an exception to this, they used the 84/98 with scabbard modifications to allow them to be used on American style belts, and modified others to fit the US supplied M1 Garlands.

I have added a table of manufacturers codes and dates used, this is slightly different in style than many others you will find as I have added all the info I can find or any single maker into a table covering the entire period 34 to 45, this will allow code and name changes to a single maker to be followed through the entire time frame. I have tried my best to track the changes and when double codes were used in a single year using info from the BCN site and the very good  site on the 84/98 by pyy44 if you have any corrections or additions I would be pleased to receive them

For other interesting 84/98 pieces click here, includes various frogs including rubber an AK variations

1st pattern has a distinctive humpbacked hilt. It can be found in sawback (apparently but very rare) and non saw backed versions. The 84/98 aA as it has become to be known is made from the earlier 71/84 bayonets with the muzzle ring removed and a new pommel with the style of the KS98, S98 and the 98/05 bayonets then in service. There are very rare versions with central fullers and others with a straight pommel.

84/98 aA made from a converted 71/84

 

Alex Coppel makers mark on the ricasso

 

 

Distinctive hump backed grips, also seen on the Rumanian 1893/1904

 

Unit marked cross guard

 

 

Scabbard and Frog are non original items

 

marks on frog. The supplier of this bayonet informed me that this bayonet was collected by in the Philippines around 1910 by his grandfather who was a US troop based there

S84/98 aA mS converted from an 1888 71/84 bayonet by the addition of a new hilt. This is probably the rarest blade in my collection

84/98 aA made from a converted trials 71/84. The 1885 spine date and the twin makers mark show this is one of the original trials bayonets which would have had an external leaf spring not the later internal coil spring. The rarity of the original trials bayonets is explained by their conversion to these 84/98's

GERMANY_M1884I98.jpg (100299 bytes) M1884/98 aA with original leather scabbard

84/98 aA mS, a converted 71/84, there is as far as I can ascertain only one recorded example of this bayonet, and this is the example in both Carter's and Roy's books on Imperial German bayonets.

Move Werk bayonets are distinctive due to the square fullers used by this manufacturer and one other unknown one. they also have a distinctive tang arrangement unlike any other manufacturer of the type
thanks to Andrew Adams for pictures
Often called the pioneer model a dress bayonet styled on the 84/98 was made

Single Etched dress knife -  PIONEER pattern, similar to the 84/98 in style

 

Etching on blade is commemoration of the owners time in service, the wear on the blade and scabbard shows this blade was carried and not just a drawer item

 

 

Clearly visible frog wear on scabbard

 

Puma maker is rarer maker for these types of blades

2nd pattern bayonet has a flash guard on the top of the hilt, and has lost the hump on the hilt. Again you will find these in both saw backed and non sawback version as well as the versions with the sawback removed.

84/98 mS early version without flash guard, Herder made example has no acceptance marks on spine or pommel, Erfurt made ones have a W over 15 spine mark and pommel acceptance marks. Very few of these were made.

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M84/98 sawback in leather scabbard

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M84/98 2nd model NCO sawback

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Second pattern 84/98 with hilt replaced with two sections of leather screwed together.  Original blade was Bavarian issue (serial on ricasso) Haenkel made one. Reason for hilt conversion unknown but would not make a usable knife in this condition as the new handle is not solid to blade.

Unmarked 84/98 with all parts chromed. the blade shows atypical square fullers, and a stepped tang, both features only found on blades made my Move and another unknown maker. These are not commonly found blades. Any information on this would be appreciated

Reichwar issued bayonets,  these will be found with 1920 crossguard markings, and were all reworks of WWI bayonets
A 1918 made 84/98 nA re issued in 1920 to the Weimar republic (the 1920 stamp was on all officially issued pieces. Original Unit marks are scored out on scabbard
Interesting 1920 dated 84/98 not only does it have unit markings but it is WuK made so actually dates from early 30's
thanks to Andrew Adams for pictures
WUK made bayonets. Sometimes know as the type 2, small numbers were made to maintain numbers before the formation of the Nazi state. These were made between 1927 and 1930, the bayonet shows both type 2 and type 3 features

Weyersberg und Kirschbaum - WuK 1928 made 84/98

 

Unit marked to a Infantry unit

 

 

Pre Nazi inspection mark

 

Small screw bolts hold grips in place

 

 

 

"Sneak", these bayonets are also known as the export model. It can be found with and without a muzzle ring. They have no makers marks and only have a WaA mark of 253 under the grips. It is also though that these were actually made for the use by the growing German army under the Nazi party
84/98 Sneak
Total length = mm                  Blade length =  Blade width = .6 MRD = 16.2
 Sneak bayonet made to circumvent the Versailles treaty restrictions on weapons manufacture. Only marking is small O under the ricasso. the serial is from post war use.
So called sneak bayonet, made to by pass allied rulings on arms manufacture, ostensibly for export use, may were used by Germany. May also be found with a muzzle ring

 

Metal parts are un-blued and there is no flash guard

 

 

And no makers

 

or serial number marks on blades

 

 

and no visible WaA stamps or acceptance marks

 

Not even on the scabbard

Undesignated Narrow blade 84/98

Narrow bladed 84-98. These are pre war bayonets and relatively uncommon and little is known about them.

Lock stud has a construction number that will be found copied on grips etc. if you dismantle one, its similarity to the scabbard number is coincidental as it is a standard 84/98 by J Sch in 1939 with normal serial on it.

Blade tip profile is not the same as a normal 84/98 being narrower and more pointed, the slight blade width is evident on the picture of this blade laid on top of a normal 84/98

84/98 type III. made up until the end of WWII, this was the standard issue bayonet of the German army. There are three distinct forms of makers marks on these

a)  1934 to 1940 the blades had a mark S/XXX, where the XXX was a 3 digit code for the maker.  34 date blades are marked K on the spine, 35 are marked G, the other dates are marked with the last two figures of the date.

b)  1937 to 1941, the blades were marked with the makers name

c)  1939 to 1945 the blades were marked with a 3 letter code for the maker (the exception is Elite Diamant that used a single letter I. Some makers had two different codes changing late in 1944.

There are several overlaps where one companies continued to use the older coding after others had started using the new ones.

There are also some bayonets with no obvious markings on them/

There are two different grip materials, wood and "plastic" with the latter being in black and red. The wood are typically the earlier made versions but each maker had different change over periods and may have gone back and forward between the two materials.

Late in 1944 some makers went over to riveted grips from the normal nuts and bolts

Very late you can find Phosphate finished blades, these are very hard to come by

 

S coded blades

S/173 1937 (Alex Coppel) near mint condition but missing scabbard

S184K (1934 manufacture by Joshua Corts) this blade has had a badge of some sort fixed onto one of the grips which was removed some time ago from the aging of the damage.

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Close up of ricasso markings, also showing replaced grips and frog stud - any ideas as to what the button is?

 

 

S244 36 marked 84/98

Naval issued 84/98's

Andrej Blazicek [Blazicek@infostat.sk] has been kind enough to allow me to post his excellent work on KM marked bayonets to add further information than my small collection can give. Please contact him direct if you can provide information on markings and serials on your KN marked blades

  

Kreigsmarine marked 84/98. Blade is marked 39 Clemen and Yung made whilst the scabbard is a37 WKC issue. The scabbard shows a O.7007.k serial which is taken to be Ostesea Kiel markings, the blade however is marked O.70P, is P another port (Peenumunde for example ) or something else?

O11126k made by Carl Eickhorn

Matching Horster 1939 marks and unit markings N10205k. Indicating use by Nord (North) Sea unit

Makers name marked blades

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M84/98 3rd model ELITE DIAMANTE

 

M84/98 3rd model

Letter coded

As the war progressed the quality of the bayonets gradually deteriorated with heavy visible grinding marks etc..

ab (Mundlos) made bayonet in an aws (Horster) made scabbard. A limited number of bayonets in 1941 were fitted with Horster made scabbards at manufacture as they have matching numbers.

43asw marked blade in matching 44asw scabbard, this scabbard is one of the CAN made ones and the remains of the A can be seen under the serial on the back of the scabbard, although it is hard to see in this picture, I shall have to try to get a clearer picture

Austrian made 84/98 III bym 43 marked scabbard (Ferlach, Austrian made)

 

WaA on the pommel are inverted -  typical of this maker

 

bym ricasso marks of Austrian made 84/98

 

matching serial on the scabbard

bym 44 with very interesting hilt damage, this is one of two I have seen but cannot figure out the reason for the strange damage. Also serial number stamping seems very strange. I have assumed that blade is 44 and uses a 43 stamp with the 3 removed

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42 cvl marked WWII model with frog (WKC made)

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Poor condition 1944 made 84/98 maker ddl

 

jwh 42 marked 84/98, shows French manufacture

 

Makers mark

 

 

Matching numbers

84/98 marked 44FFC (Herder and Son)

 

Makers mark on above blade

84/98 CLC44 very crudely made compared to normal/earlier manufacture, with very evident grinding marks on the blade and no blueing (R. Herder)

 

CLC44 with clearly visible grinding marks

 

By 1944 press studs were not being inspector stamped so this is probably a reused item

 

One of the rarer maker mark/date combinations, originally "agv" at the start of 1944 Berg & Co changed to "pyy" part way through the year. This is a miss matched example although the scabbard is another 44 pyy. The cross guard has had a later post WWII serial added but it is not known at the moment who did this.

 

 

 

 

Only a lightly stamped WaA is present on the pommel WaA 5xx.

 

Mouth of scabbard has no throat piece

 

Matching 1943 fze, still ahs all of the original grinding marks

cof made 84/98

Elite Diament made 84/98 with "I" ricasso mark

Variation on blade stamping with underlined CRS marking. Scabbard marked omc 40

CAN made scabbard with CAN mark on reverse face, this and the serial would indicate that this s originally issued with a fnj made bayonet

84/98 non matching

 

 

1941  CRS made

 

with Tr serial

 

84/98 frog

 

 

1941 dated frog

COMMERCIAL

P Weyersberg commercial made for the Reich Post, from the serial and the manufacture quality this is a late war production. the only markings are the makers mark and the RP serial, pommel etc is clear of all military acceptance marks. Early examples may be found with DRP on the ricasso rather than RP on the cross guard as in my example

Alcosso made commercial bayonet used by the police. Bayonet has no military acceptance marks but carries a 4 digit serial on the cross guard. Scabbard is not a standard 84/98 as it has rivets on both sides and not a single one on the side.

Commercial 84/98 as used by Police units and as a private purchase piece by officers, this is a late war model judging by quality

 

Made by Alcosso

 

Crude scabbard welding shows late war period manufacture

 

Complete lack of any inspection stamps

Railways marked 84/98
thanks to Andrew Adams for pictures
Unmarked

Unmarked 84/98 with very rough finish. The blade was apparently taken from the saddle bags of a BMW motorcycle sidecar combo left in a French barn since WWII

 

There are no markings on the blade or other exposed area of the blade

 

there is a total lack of acceptance marks etc.

Riveted

84/98 PtIII late model with riveted grips

 

Rivets and 44asw makers mark clearly visible, 44 related to 1944 date (Horster till 1944))

 

Matching serials on blade and scabbard.. Blade is Vet bring back and frog was with blade when "rescued" late in WWII

 

Bayonet has red composite grips

SGX 44 marked riveted grips 84/98 (Horster 1944 to 1945)

 

 

opposite grip view of rivets

 

SGX 44 ricasso marks, the very rough finish of the blade is also apparent

 

 

Blade came in a Polish made scabbard

 

 

Another view of the poor surface finish of the blade

Fantasy Blades

In the mid 1970's a series of etched 84/98's were produced in the UK, featuring highly elaborate but totally erroneous etched designs for seemingly highly desired SS units. These were made from blades obtained in Czechoslovakia which were originally issue bayonets, chosen for their quality and matched numbers. In the mid 80's another batch was made using less high quality starting stock, and I've heard that new made ones are now coming out of eastern Europe. These are often sold at very high prices as vet bring backs etc. etched blades are more normally found on the KS98 dress bayonets and not normal Wehrmacht issued blades.

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SS Fantasy Blade based on Standard Mauser Blade

Fighting Knives

Made from issued blades, there are several different models

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Cut down K98 used as fighting knife 

 

Cut down 84-98 with a less common Australian Frog

 

Herder made blade in 1939, matching blade and scabbard

 

Double edged blade grind with fuller removed

 

Cutting down pommel has removed locking mechanism for attachment to rifle

 

YUGOSLAVIA

Post WWII reworked German 84/98, refurb consisted of cleaning and re-blueing, replacing grips with new wooden ones and removing the flashguard

 

Original markings left on in most cases

 

This blade was originally made by Horster in 1939

 

New serials were applied to frog stud and cross guard

 

NORWAY

German 84/98 Mod III modified to fit US M1 Garand post WWII. The main change is the addition to the cross guard of a lug to engage into the as plug on the Garand, similar to the US M5 bayonet.
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German  84/98 presented to friends of the  Norwegian Historical Society (1975 onwards) modified by addition of chain between hilt and blade

 

 

Chain end that engages hilt slot lock

 

 

Chain end machined to fit ricasso of 84/98

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German 84/98 Mod III modified to fit US M1 Garand post WWII 

 

Addition to cross guard to engage lug in Garand

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German  84/98 presented to friends of the  Norwegian Historical Society (1975 onwards) modified by addition of chain between hilt and blade

 

Chain end that engages hilt slot lock

 

Chain end machined to fit ricasso of 84/98

 

ISRAEL

isralei converted mauser.jpg (120389 bytes)isralei converted mauser cross guard mad.jpg (75471 bytes)M1949 converted from a German 98k bayonet 
1949 German 84/98 Clone made from locally sourced materials, Israel also used German issue 84/98's with added muzzle rings Ricasso markings in Hebrew show 49 model/date. Blade is made from recycled rail track and is crudely made, shape is not the same as the German 84/98 although grips etc. are copies
Frog stud has Star of David and Army acceptance marks
Pommel has serial number

 

SPAIN
Spain 1936.jpg (84726 bytes)spain 1936 mauser toledo stamp.jpg (52705 bytes)M1936 Mauser

 

Toledo stamping

 

Opposite Ricasso
1936 Mauser made by Toledo, scabbard is re throated 1893 leather rather than the more normal steel Mauser scabbard. 1893 blade will not now fit scabbard. Slant pommel versions are not common and some blades are converted Polish Mauser blades originally delivered during the civil war.
1943 model, based on the German 84/98 however the blade is narrower than the German manufactured blades

 

Rarer composite grips, more common are wood grips

 

Spanish 1943 scabbard has no throat and is thinner than its German original, the German 84/98 will not fit in this scabbard as it is narrower

 

Comparison of the Spanish blade (left) and German blade (right)

 

PORTUGAL
PORTUGAL MAUSER USED BY PORTUGUESE LEGION.jpg (90009 bytes)PORTUGAL MAUSER USED BY PORTUGUESE LEGION FROG STAMP.jpg (98654 bytes)German 84/98 second pattern used by Portuguese Legion prior to WWII, bayonet has original German unit markings still in place 

 

Scabbard stamp of Portuguese Legion 
M1937 or M1939 Contract German 84/98, the difference between the two contracts is in the quality of the manufacture. This has a good finish and I will assume it is the earlier model

 

Pommel serial number

 

BULGARIA

44 cvl marked 84/98, The front of the frog has been replaced (period) with late war thin leather face that almost appears to be like paper (style of front is more that of one for an 1895 than an 84/98). Frog is marked as 1940 made 4th INTENDENTURA which translates as something like supply department (thank you Adam Lubas). Blade has typical 44 rough manufacture

 

84/98 bym 1945
 
Total length = mm Blade length =  Blade width =  MRD = 
One of a batch of bym marked bayonets dumped into a lake at the end of WWII from the local factory. Conditions in the lake served to preserve the bayonets and they were recovered with little corrosion. This one is in the enough condition before final shaping and drilling of press stud hole to final dimensions.
Of note is that although not finished the blade is already marked with a makers mark "bym" and the date (only the 5 is used), there is no evidence of the serial number, indicating that this at least was not stamped until near completion of the bayonet. Interesting what you an learn from unfinished goods.

 

UNKNOWN
84-98
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84/98 with rivet on tip, is this a training bayonet or for an honour guard to not catch the flags?